Is it true that some of the cast didn't get along?
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There could be long pauses between work.
I would like to re-title this thread as "Is it possible that co-workers don't always get along?" 
But all things considered, the DS9 crew did great - professionally and personally.
But all things considered, the DS9 crew did great - professionally and personally.
I'm doomed. My protector is Sir Humphrey Appleby.
After my father took early retirement he still had to sign on to maintain his NI record, even though he didn't need to work (and was effectively ruled out of seeking work in some sectors by the retirement deal).
i don’t know about about Beltran and Wang, but I remember when they got rid of Kes, and brought in a woman in a skin tight outfit-and always focused on her ‘physical attributes’-Mulgrew didn’t like kes being let go-and adding a different actress and making it about sex. As a young woman at the time, I thought it was great that a main female actress stood up for female characters/actresses without it focusing on sex, or a woman’s body. I can’t say it was fair to take it out on Jeri Ryan-but I do know a lot of women I knew quit watching the show, as young guys started watching it. Mulgrew was respected as a character who made women who liked sci-fi feel we were interested in the sci-fi aspect, not turned off by the representation of women. The Seven character shot that down a lot. Look at movies and tv shows-including Star Trek:tng(Deanna) and Star Trek:enterprise (t’pol)-and the outfits for women on original Star Trek. The first few years of voyager really made women feel respected and appreciated as leaders/engineers/medical-and Seven never really brought that to the show. Which I felt may have had to do with cast interactions-she never really felt integrated into the ship cast. Same with ezri Dax on ds9-but I felt in that case it was the character representation in the script.
The TOS short skirts were not as outrageous in 1965 as they would be now. The trend toward shorter skirts started in the late 1950s. When my mom was 18, in 1960, her grandmother took her on a fashion shopping trip to New York and brought back some short skirts and dresses to start college in style. (Short being above the knee, not as short as miniskirts of the late 1960s.) My mom's parents got calls from overly concerned acquaintances about how short her skirts were, and the parents laughed it off. The next few years showed that she was just ahead of the trend on the west coast. Back then, fashion still started in New York and worked its way westwards... Short skirts were seen as a symbol of women's liberation and youth, not primarily a sex symbol.
See https://www.vam.ac.uk/articles/the-miniskirt-myth
See https://www.vam.ac.uk/articles/the-miniskirt-myth
An episode of "Inglorious Treksperts", about B5 of all things, I listened to recently hinted that some people didn't get along on DS9. Mark A. Altman who did "The Fifty Year Mission" interviewed people for those books and wasn't allowed to include stuff. They mentioned this in comparison to TNG cast and related it to the B5 and TOS cast. I feel like there was just different groups who got along well, compared to some united whole.
I have read that Nicole Nicols wanted her skirt shorter, in that time it was a sign of feminism/freedom because they could choose for themselves what to wear
Same here. I think she wrote of it in her autobiography as well as a few interview responses. Grace Lee Whitney also proposed the inclusion of the outfit due to it being represented as women's empowerment at the time. As perceptions changed, the style did go out of favor.
https://comparativegeeks.wordpress.com/2016/05/07/star-trek-miniskirts-feminist-or-nah/
There's one of the sites where I had read her quoted comments. IMHO, they're very thoughtful...
A recurring issue is how men co-opt changes made to help empower women. Yes, shorter skirts in Star Trek helped show empowerment for Nichols and Whitney, but it also constrained the women guest stars to wear the same short skirt, whether they liked it or not, and they were often forced to parade in costume before the producers, including Mr. Roddenbery himself. There is almost no way of winning.
The cast were thrown together by the whims of casting choices, during the shooting season working tremendously long days under a lot of pressure. I don't have any special knowledge of the relationships but it would be surprising if they all got along perfectly all the time.
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Thx. I saw several recent posts-so I thought it was one that kinda kept going and going, like the energizer bunny. This was my first post-so I’ll try to be aware. Thx for letting me knowWelcome to Trek BBS @Sci-fi mom !
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Is there anything substantial to learn about the DS9 cast really, anything that would surprise us?
Auberjonois was cranky, Brooks was intense, Farrell was underprepared, and Siddig could be aloof. I think that covers everything. I think Hertzler said that Brooks was loud as a director, so maybe his style pushed people a little (although he directed some very quiet episodes). However, I don't see how there could be anything that would change my impression of the dynamics of the cast, nothing like how Shatner related to his co-stars or Mulgrew treated Ryan.
Personally, I think that "didn't get along" is probably overstating the matter, or at least causing some inferring of a mountain where a molehill exists. I assume they didn't clash often, and did the work professionally. They just didn't become lifelong chums like the TNG cast.
That's right, I'm assuming the hell out of a situation I wasn't part of!
That's right, I'm assuming the hell out of a situation I wasn't part of!
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