darkwing_duck1
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I keep hearing that the BluRay version will have a ton of stuff that won't be even in the deluxe multi-disc DVD version...sounds like a ham handed attempt to force us to convert up to Blu Ray...
Is it true that Paramount is going to shaft us on the DVD extras?
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Well...duh.
darkwing_duck1
Vice Admiral
It's dirty business to deny product to your customer based on format. It would cost them NOTHING to put it on the dvds, since they are being made anyways.
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Amaris
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You can fit far more on a Blu-ray than on a DVD. The studios will be taking advantage of that feature.
J.
And where was your complaining when DVDs were being released (and still are) with minimal special features with the intent of releasing a special edition later on?
Disillusioned
Commander
Bwahahahahahahaha! Bow before Zod! 
Sorry, couldn't resist.
The others are probably right about it being a matter of room more than just trying to pressure people into switching over to BluRay. The first regular DVD tends to be the bare-bones version for people who just have to have it right away. Then later on they'll come out with a multi-disc "special edition" that will have a lot of special features. I imagine that will be the case here, too, with the extra special features ending up on additional disks.
Sorry, couldn't resist.
The others are probably right about it being a matter of room more than just trying to pressure people into switching over to BluRay. The first regular DVD tends to be the bare-bones version for people who just have to have it right away. Then later on they'll come out with a multi-disc "special edition" that will have a lot of special features. I imagine that will be the case here, too, with the extra special features ending up on additional disks.
Bwahahahahahahaha! Bow before Zod!
Sorry, couldn't resist.
I'm not sure there's going to be a double dip, especially for the DVD version. The studios are focusing all their energy on BD and 3D-BD, which will be coming out in 2010, especially because DVD sales are declining while BD is increasing.
darkwing_duck1
Vice Admiral
Not a huge fan of THAT either, and have said so...
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Amaris
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Bwahahahahahahaha! Bow before Zod!
Sorry, couldn't resist.
I'm not sure there's going to be a double dip, especially for the DVD version. The studios are focusing all their energy on BD and 3D-BD, which will be coming out in 2010, especially because DVD sales are declining while BD is increasing.
I had to look up 3D BD. Wow, that looks like an incredibly exciting technology. I want to see more of it!
J.
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Amaris
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I don't know why fans get so angry about reissues, and brand them as "double dipping".
The shops demand new product. Customers also demand new product. The shops eventually put all their old, dusty releases onto bargain tables to make room for new product and, if we want Star Trek to continue to maintain a viable presence in DVD shops over the next few decades, then CBS and Paramount must keep issuing slightly tweaked, improved versions of the ST backlist, even if it's only cover revamps, extra bonus scenes, new commentaries, or newly-added features.
Seems to me, some fans want one release only - ever - which the shops will definitely tire of stocking, until the franchise's sales dwindle.
The shops demand new product. Customers also demand new product. The shops eventually put all their old, dusty releases onto bargain tables to make room for new product and, if we want Star Trek to continue to maintain a viable presence in DVD shops over the next few decades, then CBS and Paramount must keep issuing slightly tweaked, improved versions of the ST backlist, even if it's only cover revamps, extra bonus scenes, new commentaries, or newly-added features.
Seems to me, some fans want one release only - ever - which the shops will definitely tire of stocking, until the franchise's sales dwindle.
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Amaris
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Plus it's always nice to take advantage of new technologies or new features.
J.
darkwing_duck1
Vice Admiral
I just posted on the other release thread after having seen the listings of what's on each version and I'm more pissed now than when I first posted this thread: the only way to get the GOOD extras (production design galleries, etc) is the Blu Ray.
Paramount has always charged too much and delivered too little, but this is stupid!
Paramount has always charged too much and delivered too little, but this is stupid!
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Amaris
Guest
Think about it though: If it's on several Blu-ray discs, how many DVDs do you think it would take? A DL Blu-Ray disc can hold 5 DL (dual layer) DVDs. That would be more than a bit cumbersome.
J.
I may be in the minority, but I never really cared all that much for DVD extras. All I want is the movie, so the regular "bare bones" DVD is perfect for me.
The way I figure it is that the technology will continue to improve, so I'll have to get another version of it eventually, but just not right now. Before too long, it'll be all digital downloads anyway as physical media period is phased out, IMO...
The way I figure it is that the technology will continue to improve, so I'll have to get another version of it eventually, but just not right now. Before too long, it'll be all digital downloads anyway as physical media period is phased out, IMO...
Which is why my wife thought she was buying me something neat for my birthday when she gave me a shiny new looking boxed set of Star Trek movies. I didn't have the heart to tell her that there wasn't really anything in the set that I didn't already have.
As far as Blu-ray goes, it's the future. DVDs will probably soon go the way of music cassettes, which themselves displaced 8-tracks. It's probably a good thing, but it costs money to stay current, and that does stink.
Then again, how many of us old foggies went out and basically duplicated our old cassette collection when CDs first came out (and how many replaced their vinyl with cassettes before that)?
How many of us just had to have the new remastered Beatles albums even though we have now owned those same albums on vinyl, cassette, and older CDs? We are consumers, it's what we do.
Disillusioned
Commander
Plus there are people who might only want a bare-bones version anyway. But really I see nothing wrong with them getting a DVD out as soon as possible in order to make some money on it. Then they have some time to work on the special features more and they can release a better version later, which is the version I usually end up getting because I'm patient enough to wait. I'm even patient enough to wait for the price to drop on the expanded version. Not that I'll be getting this movie or anything.
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