It died when Spock said "check the circuit" - his weird, posh style accent has no business coming out of the mouth of a Vulcan, even a half-Vulcan science officer. I was done by then.It died when the Talosians show up.
Is it just me, or is Star Trek going the wrong way?
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This was the last real Star Trek.
Gene Roddenberry's birth destroyed his own vision.
"Real" Star Trek = "The ones I like!"
"Star Trek is going in the wrong direction." = "Star Trek is going in the direction I don't want it to go."
"Star Trek is going in the wrong direction." = "Star Trek is going in the direction I don't want it to go."
If I have to accept the Irish village holodeck episodes of VOY, "Profit and Lace(DS9)" and "TATV...(ENT)" as Trek then someone will live with anything post-2001 also being Star Trek.
Yeah, those are far, far, worse.
That's like kind of the truth, isn't it?
No, I know "The Cage" is Star Trek in it's purest form to me.
After first seeing it back in '88 or whenever, it's how I wished Star Trek was... And it's how I've judge every iteration of Star Trek since going forward. In that, when I see it, do I get the same feeling that I got when I first watched "The Cage"?
It's happened twice since then.
First with JJ Trek with that first teaser in 2008...
...that was kind of a "Oh my" moment. And then of course the regular trailer.
And then again in the first episode of Discovery with Michael and Philippa walking in the desert on that Crepusculan homeworld or whatever. Another "Oh my" moment.
Anyway, using The Beatles analogy, "The Cage" I guess is kind of like Backbeat or something...
...who from "The Cage" is Stuart Sutcliffe though I don't know.
Maybe no one, a real Nowhere Man.
(Hey, it was worth a try... )
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Or I guess obviously Pike.
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I want Star Trek in its purest, most utopian form. The way it appears in my head when I'm thirteen years old and high on sugar from candy and soft drinks.
Got to love TNG Season 1!
No interference from NBC, UPN, or CBS. Gene Roddenberry in complete creative control with his (evil) lawyer driving everyone out. Writers getting fired for not following The Vision. And Gene's had 20+ years to perfect his idea of what Star Trek should be and learned from all of his mistakes after the first series. Can't get any better than that. True Purity. (A very disturbing sentence I just typed)
On paper, and in theory, TNG Season 1 should've been the best, truest version of Star Trek ever... but in reality... To quote Spock, "You may find, after a time, that having is not so pleasing a thing, after all, as wanting. It is not logical, but it is often true."
It largely sucks...
TAS was the only series where Gene was offered (and accepted) total creative control, so that should have been the purest form of Star Trek.
Shortly after the deal was struck he farmed off the series runner responsibilities to D.C. Fontanna.
So in other words...the purest form of Trek was DCF's vision of Trek?
Shortly after the deal was struck he farmed off the series runner responsibilities to D.C. Fontanna.
So in other words...the purest form of Trek was DCF's vision of Trek?
The 'purest' form of Star Trek is probably the TMP novelization, and that shit's unreadable.
Gene's idea of pure Star Trek was one where he made money off something he let other people do most of the work running.
Love Instructors, FTW.
Yeah, for me "The Cage" is Star Trek in it's purest form, and I feel that Star Trek: The Motion Picture is Star Trek fully realized.
So maybe the alpha and the omega in a way.
Star Trek: The Motion Picture was at first how I wanted Star Trek to be, and then later on after seeing "The Cage" it was like, "Yeah, I like this too." Both of them I thought were superior to The Original Series, but I liked The Original Series too, just not as much.
Paramount should really try that again though, I think. A Star Trek: The Motion Picture type thing, with a 2001: A Space Odyssey sensibility and all of that. See how it works.
Of course, it's their money that they would be spending, so "eh... ", probably not much chance of that happening.
I think TMP is the closest.
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