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Is it a mistake to use the Enterprise?

Jayson

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On one hand it will be fun to see the ship again but on the other hand do you think it might take us out of movie to see all our familiar characters aboard yet since they different actors it could feel like a fan film. I think you can get away with recasting when your doing films about characters in a younger stage of their life but I wonder how it will play seeing them in a familiar setting. Just look at the series final of "voyager" were they tried to recreate the Enterprise. It didn't feel real so to speak and that had orginal TNG actors involved.

I got to say I hope we only see Kirk and Spock on the Enterprise. I think seeing the entire gang back and everyone in their familiar positions might be to fan wanky and not in a good way.

Jason
 
Sorry but Hollywood Reporter is reporting that they're looking to cast Scotty, Sulu and Uhura for the film and are in negotiations with an actor to play Chekov.
 
That's because no one on Star Trek is ever promoted, and everyone has always had the same job forever. Lord knows we couldn't possibly watch a TOS movie without the f-ing ensemble of characters in place.
 
IF these reports are true... and I'm taking them with more than a grain of salt... but IF they're true, then the movie that's being made is going in the wrong direction.

The thing is, this is inconsistent with the statements made by Abrams and team all along, it seems to me. It's so horrifically "fan-wankish" that it just seems like it's gotta be a hoax.

I'll believe it when I see it, not before. So far, all we've got are rumors, and people buying into rumors. If we see people actually cast to play these roles... then we'll know something. As of now, we know nothing at all.
 
Cary L. Brown said:
IF these reports are true... and I'm taking them with more than a grain of salt... but IF they're true, then the movie that's being made is going in the wrong direction.

The thing is, this is inconsistent with the statements made by Abrams and team all along, it seems to me. It's so horrifically "fan-wankish" that it just seems like it's gotta be a hoax.

I'll believe it when I see it, not before. So far, all we've got are rumors, and people buying into rumors. If we see people actually cast to play these roles... then we'll know something. As of now, we know nothing at all.

could you elaborate? While I have some worries about too many characters, these castings don't indictae how much screentime they actually have. How is it fanwank?
 
Did I miss something? Has it in fact been confirmed that the Enterprise will be the main ship of this movie, or even make an appearance?
 
^^^
Pretty much. the indications all point towards Enterpoop making the show. And, hey, they'd be crazy not too.
 
JuanBolio said:
Did I miss something? Has it in fact been confirmed that the Enterprise will be the main ship of this movie, or even make an appearance?


It was mentioned a few weeks back on Trek Today; the ship will rendered by ILM.
 
could you elaborate? While I have some worries about too many characters, these castings don't indictae how much screentime they actually have. How is it fanwank?
Well, the point of a film needs to be to tell a story. Any character who is not central to the story... who's being thrown into the mix to "punch a ticket"... isn't going to help tell that story.

IF this is true... then what they're doing is saying "Enterprise... check. Kirk... check. Spock... check. McCoy.. check. Sulu... check. Uhura... check. Scotty... check. Chekov... check. Rand... check. Chapel... check. We've got a Star Trek movie!"

But, Star Trek... GOOD Star Trek... wasn't ever about "giving each character their moment." That's one of the things that turned non-Trek fans OFF from the Berman-era flicks. People who aren't Trek fans didn't CARE about the little "character bits" that were unrelated to the central plot of the movie, and were (as I've observed at least) fairly well TURNED OFF by that.

Everything we've seen or heard from the people actually working on the film implies (though it doesn't conclusively STATE) that this film is set prior to TOS. IF that is the case... most of these characters have no place in the film!.

On the other hand... if they're using all these characters, that means that this film must be set during the same timeframe as TOS. Which seems to imply (at least to me) that some of the OTHER things that have been said haven't been clear.

Why do I say that it seems to hinting at "fanwankish?" Because it's about checking off "kewl things on a list" rather than telling a great story.

That's not to say that a great story can't be told with all of these characters present... but it seems to me that it's more of a DISTRACTION than it is a benefit.

This movie needs to have as few distractions from the plot as possible... and needs to have one hell of a compelling, absorbing, exciting, and PERSONAL plot. Having "today's hottest stars" or having "a totally kewlified new Enterprise" or "having every single character from the seasonal "Bridge Ensemble Photo" present, though recast... I don't see how any of that lends towards telling a great story.

Focusing on the wrong things is typical what I was referring to. On checkboxes rather than on storytelling.

Make sense?
 
I am personally hoping very strongly that the casting sheet was either fake or an intended leak to throw us off. It just doesn't make any sense. I do think they should use the Enterprise, but at the age they appear to be looking to cast Kirk, there is no way in hell he should be captaining it, and the second tier characters like Sulu and Uhura really have no place in Kirk's pre-captain days. It is all so very very confusing, and hurts my brain to think about.
 
But we really don't know shit about Kirk's pre-captain days. And Kirk took command of the Enterprise at the age of 29, so the age range for Kirk given on the casting sheet (be it real or hoax)fits with his age in the movie.
 
SeamusShameless said:
But we really don't know shit about Kirk's pre-captain days. And Kirk took command of the Enterprise at the age of 29, so the age range for Kirk given on the casting sheet (be it real or hoax)fits with his age in the movie.
29? I was under the impression that he was 32 at the time he was given Enterprise, and that he was 35 or 36 when the show went off the air (which still makes him younger than I am now... damn...)
 
I thought he was 35 when he made captain, but I don't really care if Abrams preserves the implied timeline of Kirk's life. It's not pivotal to the plot or his character; all that really matters is that he is "young" when he makes Captain.
 
Cary L. Brown said:
29? I was under the impression that he was 32 at the time he was given Enterprise, and that he was 35 or 36 when the show went off the air (which still makes him younger than I am now... damn...)

I'm almost certain that Vonda McIntyre said he was 29 when he received command, but I'm pretty sure the more commonly accepted age is 32.
 
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