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"Fun romp" does not equal "pretty much perfect" though.
Is FUTURE'S END pretty much perfect?
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"Fun romp" does not equal "pretty much perfect" though.
Umm... no.
What didn't you like about it?
AND DON'T SAY ANYTHING BAD ABOUT SILVERMAN! She is very beautiful, until she opens her mouth!
My only major gripe with the episode is the sometimes questionable acting from Ms. Silverman. However her exquisite looks and F*ing Matt Damon make up for it. 
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In fairness, it has been a while since I've seen these two episodes so my memory is a bit faulty however I do remember not being all too impressed with it.
However my initial response to this thread answered it quite adequetely -- Future's End is not "pretty much perfect."
However my initial response to this thread answered it quite adequetely -- Future's End is not "pretty much perfect."
No... I don't want to punch him... I want him to blow up!
I think this episode is terribly overrated, but I've never been a fan of any episode that involves traveling back to the 20th century in any series.
I see what you mean - I'm normally not a huge fan of time travel episodes in general. I find this one to be a lot of fun though.
What?
Punch the man who gave us the Computer revolution?
Without him nothing of what we're doing here would be possible!
http://henrystarling.9f.com/
I love this episode. I wish it had led to a spin-off series with Silverman and Teri Garr from TOS's Assignment:Earth, running around saving Earth from ENT's Temporal Cold War Aliens and baddies.
I wish they had mentioned Khan and the Eugenics states of Asia in some way. I had the thought that Voyager's appearance over Los Angeles could have been viewed as an act of aggression by Khan and Co. Tensions escalate, etc. Then Harry Kim would have been responsible for starting WWIII on his first day in the big chair.
The only underdeveloped part is Chakotay and B'Elanna and the Fringe guys.
That's where I wish Assignment:Earth's Aegis people had been coming to the rescue, only the Doc got there first.
I wish they had mentioned Khan and the Eugenics states of Asia in some way. I had the thought that Voyager's appearance over Los Angeles could have been viewed as an act of aggression by Khan and Co. Tensions escalate, etc. Then Harry Kim would have been responsible for starting WWIII on his first day in the big chair.
The only underdeveloped part is Chakotay and B'Elanna and the Fringe guys.
That's where I wish Assignment:Earth's Aegis people had been coming to the rescue, only the Doc got there first.
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I see what you mean - I'm normally not a huge fan of time travel episodes in general. I find this one to be a lot of fun though.
+1...The clothes alone makes it a must see. I really like Sarah Sliverman and there are some great lines in the episode, "whats that in your pants", "I doubt taking a test drive will alter the course of the universe", and "we probably could have just worn our uniforms and nobody would notice"
lol
I always liked this two-parter. Back when I watched Voyager a lot, it was regular viewing.
As for the model---well, after Gary Seven convinced Kahn and his ilk to leave on the prototype ship being developed at Area 51, the designs for said ship must have leaked. Rain---who strikes me as ever so slightly a conspiracy nut---might have found it fun to buy a model of said "black project" on eBay.
Or was eBay around in 1996?
As for the model---well, after Gary Seven convinced Kahn and his ilk to leave on the prototype ship being developed at Area 51, the designs for said ship must have leaked. Rain---who strikes me as ever so slightly a conspiracy nut---might have found it fun to buy a model of said "black project" on eBay.
Or was eBay around in 1996?
My theory is that Starling's dabbling with time in some way erased or postponed the Eugenics wars.
In fact, I have no memories from such events in the 90's, just a ...................strange feeling. A feeling just like the feeling Kes had in the Voyager book "Echoes" (another story with a very complicated "alternate universe" plot) that someyhing important has happened but I don't know why.
What?
Punch the man who gave us the Computer revolution?
Without him nothing of what we're doing here would be possible!
http://henrystarling.9f.com/
Chronowerx stock is going down!
Poor Kahn was sold on ebay!
Well if you ignore that it set the template for Voyager driving the cliche time travel story straight through the ground and into the third concentric circle of hell.
And that Voyager's magical techno-babble is so techno-babbleicious that it out techno-babbles techno-babble from the 28th century. Funny you would think time travelers from the future would know what Voyager was going to do before Voyager did.
And that Voyager's magical techno-babble is so techno-babbleicious that it out techno-babbles techno-babble from the 28th century. Funny you would think time travelers from the future would know what Voyager was going to do before Voyager did.
Not always considering there are so many futures and presents coexisting side by side just like the other Captain Braxton said so at the end of Futures End.
Another thing that pissed me off about continuity in these episodes was that Janeway says that she has no idea where her relatives are/were back in 1996 when she had always worshiped the lie which was the heroic life of Astronaut Shannon O'Donnell, who apparently was equally heroic for leading a tedious life of a homemaker in a second hand bookshop.
Obviously these stories didn't take place in the same timeline after the disjoining schisms in Year of hell.
Another thing that pissed me off about continuity in these episodes was that Janeway says that she has no idea where her relatives are/were back in 1996 when she had always worshiped the lie which was the heroic life of Astronaut Shannon O'Donnell, who apparently was equally heroic for leading a tedious life of a homemaker in a second hand bookshop.
Obviously these stories didn't take place in the same timeline after the disjoining schisms in Year of hell.
When 1988 rolled around, a friend of mine spazzed out claiming that Buck Roger's lied to him, demanding to know why a nuclear war hadn't destroyed the earth a year earlier?
If there isn't a second sun in the sky come 2010 I'm going to scream blue bloody murder.
Fiction is fiction and it diverges from reality as cleanly as you want it to.
Just to be extra-geeky, in BR-25thCentury, 1987 was never confirmed as the date of WW3. It was only when Buck's shuttle launched.
I know that 'Testimony Of A Traitor' seemed to place it not long after he left, but we still don't know if the conspirators Buck infiltrated were successful, or whether WW3-BR had a separate cause.
I liked the take the TSR-type game did years later, saying that Buck was lost and frozen while *preventing* WW3.
Good episodes...however, why the hell did they leave Harry in command when B'lanna was on the bridge/ship and outranked him?