I mean Michael Burnham is in many ways an amga
#BlackTwitter would disagree with that particular assessment
#BlackTwitter would disagree with that particular assessment
Is Discovery the most polarizing Trek property ever?
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Which is wrong. My wife and mother-in-law like it just fine. Don't mistake internet outrage for general trends.
CBS renewed for a second season AND got Amazon to carry CBSonline on the strength of a few hundred forum members? Oh the power!
They are playing a long game to destroy Trek, apparently.
Just basic economics at play. CBS and Netflix wouldn't keep pouring money into it if everyone hated it and no one was watching it.
Reviews have been way more positive than the aggregate audience response that sites like Rotten Tomatoes and MetaCritic do in addition. Audience response matters more, and to the extent it can be measured outside of trekkie sites it's pretty tepid.
Well, again, "most people" don't notice STD. Among those who do, it's pretty polarizing.
I am polarized in my own mind on Discovery. There's a lot about the show I REALLY like. There are also plenty of serious flaws (not from the angle of adherence to what Trek is "supposed" to be, just in their own storytelling -- the plotting is so awkward, I can always feel the hand of the writer clumsily moving the pieces around).
I think we're close enough to the end that I can say I'll never view Disco year 1 as a great season of television, but, assuming the kinks get worked out in future years, I could certainly regard it as equivalent to the first seasons of TNG or DS9 -- a rough start, but with tons of good ideas and abundant potential evident from the jump.
And I'm sure we all cannot wait to see it.
So, so true.
And a very good question. Just don't ask me to ponder it Thursday nights after "Gotham" comes back. I'll be busy watching the new episodes as they air live (no DVR delay here!) and tearing my hair out and screaming at the TV about all the ways this irredeemably terrible garbage show trashes my beloved Bat-mythos!!!!!!
I think we're close enough to the end that I can say I'll never view Disco year 1 as a great season of television, but, assuming the kinks get worked out in future years, I could certainly regard it as equivalent to the first seasons of TNG or DS9 -- a rough start, but with tons of good ideas and abundant potential evident from the jump.
And I'm sure we all cannot wait to see it.
So, so true.
And a very good question. Just don't ask me to ponder it Thursday nights after "Gotham" comes back. I'll be busy watching the new episodes as they air live (no DVR delay here!) and tearing my hair out and screaming at the TV about all the ways this irredeemably terrible garbage show trashes my beloved Bat-mythos!!!!!!
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They definitely need to move away from the fanwank for season two. It is like they are constantly jumping up and down going "look! see! it's Star Trek! I tell ya!"
God yes. Enough callbacks already.
There's definitely something a little schizoid in the intersection of content and style, on the show. If they want to really break ground and attract a new audience for Trek they'll need to up the writing game a lot and take some storytelling chances. One big risk, obviously, being that they'll simply alienate more of the long-time audience without any guarantee that they'll break out into the general public consciousness. They're trying too hard to have it both ways right now, which may be a result of all the behind-the-scenes jerking around and repurposing of elements.
The vast majority of those eyeballs locked onto HBO's Game of Thrones had never read the name "George R.R. Martin."
I think it is Star Trek enough that they don't need to constantly shove fan service in my face.
I'm pretty sure as soon as the callbacks end the same voices would scream: "See? They distance themselves from the TruTrek! Even they know how bad it is!"
I'm of the opinion they should've defined Discovery as its own thing first, gave it an identity then circled around and done the fan service type stuff.
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