Into Darkness: What stopped the war?
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That script is so unbelievably sloppy it really makes you wonder why it took two and a half years to write and had to postpone the movie's release.
I assume that was an Abrams flourish. He's basically applying Star Wars logic onto Trek with stuff like Spock being able to see Vulcan's destruction when on another planet. Or, like in Star Wars, Han Solo and others somehow seeing the destruction of the Hosnian system in real time. Doesn't matter if it doesn't make sense, it's just a fluid way of telling a story and DAT EMOTIONAL BEAT. Same with Enterprise being pulled by Earth's gravity to the point people are falling sideways, even though they're parked right next to the moon.
Is it really? I mean, there don't appear to be any shots with the planet actually visible along with the starship. Instead, there's a shot of Mudd's ship leaving the Enterprise, then a cut into another where Mudd's ship reaches the planet with the shattered moon.
Ah, but we get a nice and explicit timeline onscreen, complete with timepoints in Military Time:
1) there's a space quake at the Neutral Zone at "2200 hours" (Spock arrives from the future, Nero gets red matter)
2) there's carnage reported by a Klingon prison planet at "2300 hours last night" (Nero either challenges and defeats 47 Klingon warbirds, or then sends a false message to that effect, either way luring Starfleet into the wrong sort of action so that all the ships end up in the wrong place, that is, Laurentius)
3) the message about trouble at Vulcan arrives some time in the early San Francisco morning; the cadet fleet is dispatched
4) Nero actually starts drilling into Vulcan; Amanda Grayson rushes out to get a view
The last two points are especially telling, as Vulcan "sends a distress call" before Nero actually gets into it, and none thereafter. Seems Nero not only jams communications at will, but also sends false ones that are bought hook, line, sinker, boat and crew.
Timo Saloniemi
The Organians stopped it, just like in The Original Series. In fact, "Errand of Mercy," could have played out all over again with Chris Pine and crew during their "five-year mission" between "Into Darkness" and "Beyond." (Maybe if we look closely, there's some log entry about their mission to Organia in the files downloaded by Krall.) I can just picture Kor, with his ridged Klingon helmet, standing next to Chris Pine's Kirk, saying, "It would have been glorious."
I think the movie stated that the Romulan drilling machine, when active, causes subspace interference, blocking all transporters and subspace communications, which is why they need to use parachutes to reach the drill and disable it.
The thing is, the only time the Organians stopped it was when it spilled over to their lawn. Nobody set foot on Organian soil in the Abramsverse events as far as we know.
In addition, Nero appears capable of jamming Vulcan communications even before his drill slams into Vulcan soil. Or at least the jamming comes before the scene where Amanda rushes to the balcony to have a look - and why would she have delayed this rushing beyond the point when the drilling actually started? It's not as if the drill jams people. And if it jams transportation (say, transporters and antigravs, explaining why no ground or air vehicles threatened the drill and why our skydiving heroes had to use old-fashioned parachutes), surely it would stop Amanda's efforts to get away, rather than delay her attempt to have a good look?
No doubt the drill is a noisy bit of industrial hardware. And no doubt the noise can be generated without actually using the drill for drilling...
Timo Saloniemi
That was my problem with ST09 as well. Too rushed, too actiony, no plot.
The Blingons discovered that Starfleet had a cure for death, so lost interest.
the Klingons DONT CARE> seriously pay attention to the star trek deleted scenes. in the actual movie the battle took place in the middle of nowhere ville.
in the deleted scenes, the kelvin-narada fight took place well inside Klingon space, and by the time the shuttles had left dozens of Klingon battle cruisers had arrived. N
in the deleted scenes, the kelvin-narada fight took place well inside Klingon space, and by the time the shuttles had left dozens of Klingon battle cruisers had arrived. N
