Well, did you see the bylineless Desilu logo on the 2004 DVD sets you have? Cuz I have the PAL DVD set from 2004 and that has the bylineless Desilu logo on all episodes.
Info on 2004 Original Series Clamshell box set.
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I’ll try..
Okay I checked and the Desilu logo has the 1978 byline. For the blu rays it was moved to the CBS Television logo which follows. So there are differences in the prints. I don't suppose you had a chance to check Charlie X for the logo music yet..?
Not yet
Sorry, didn't find it. But it could be on any episode of Season 1 on that PAL DVD...
But just wait til I get the Season 2 PAL DVD...
I'm mostly content with the Blu-ray presentations, but I still sometimes dust off the '04 DVDs, especially for the season 1 episodes with a/v sync issues on Blu-ray. On a whim, I recently watched "The City on the Edge of Forever" from DVD (the NTSC version, specifically) and I noticed that the writer-director-producer credits at the end are still-frame dissolves; on the other hand, the same underlying shot of the Guardian is in perfectly fluid motion in the hi-def transfer. The beam up from the Guardian's planet is even different (there is no freeze of the Guardian as everyone beams in the hi-def version).
I've never tried cataloging every visual difference between the two releases, but I know of at least two more in addition to this and the few already mentioned in this thread: the alternate Louise Sorel credits in "Requiem for Methuselah" and at least a couple of episodes on Blu-ray which recreated the original end credits with digital text (IIRC, "Is There in Truth..." and "Spectre of the Gun").
I've never tried cataloging every visual difference between the two releases, but I know of at least two more in addition to this and the few already mentioned in this thread: the alternate Louise Sorel credits in "Requiem for Methuselah" and at least a couple of episodes on Blu-ray which recreated the original end credits with digital text (IIRC, "Is There in Truth..." and "Spectre of the Gun").
I remember getting my first cd audio disc back in the late 80s and thinking this is sci fi, no needle or tape head touching the disc, then DVDs came out and made my VHS collection look as popular as wax discs, and now DVDs are the 78s of the modern world with BR turning into the 45s of the modern world now that 4k HDR streaming is normal.lol
Yeah! I'm 60 and I have no intention of moving beyond my (magnificent) DVD and Bluray collection. I still watch a 32-inch, 720p flat screen, and the best-quality DVDs look nearly as good as Blurays on that thing. Sometimes HD discs are even too sharp for their own good.
The other thing is, with streaming you hand over control of your content to a multinational corporation, that theoretically could edit shows to impose "cultural sensitivity" on you, or even delete titles from their catalogue for reasons of content or just contractual rights that expire. And if possible, I'd like to keep my stuff for life.
My solution was to transfer my video copies of Trek (Laser, DVD & Blu) and other shows to digital files and use the Plex server to watch them. It's like having my own streaming channel with any version of Trek I wanna watch. Chapter stops are retained and it doesn't ask me to watch the next episode until well after the credits have rolled.
My first HDTV was 32" which I figured would be fine since I had a 32" CRT before that. I quickly outgrew it. 32" is tiny, and new TVs are cheap. As far as shows being edited for streaming platforms, I don't really see the difference between that and edits that have been going on with the broadcast networks for years. For any content that you are an avid fan of, it's better to have physical media.
Kor
I'm going to venture a guess that they had the 'motion smoothing' setting turned on, which results in the 'soap opera' effect making things look like they were shot on video. A lot of new TVs come with this setting turned on right out of the box, and oftentimes casual viewers aren't very familiar with the technical stuff, so they aren't even aware that it's possible to turn it off. Or it doesn't bother them. Personally, it drives me batty. When I get a new TV the first thing I do is find that setting and deactivate it. I was at a self-proclaimed cinephile friend's house and we were watching 2001: A Space Odyssey. With the 'motion smoothing' on. It was horrible.
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I'm going to venture a guess that they had the 'motion smoothing' setting turned on, which results in the 'soap opera' effect making things look like they were shot on video. A lot of new TVs come with this setting turned on right out of the box, and oftentimes casual viewers aren't very familiar with the technical stuff, so they aren't even aware that it's possible to turn it off. Or it doesn't bother them. Personally, it drives me batty. When I get a new TV the first thing I do is find that setting and deactivate it. I was at a self-proclaimed cinephile friend's house and we were watching 2001: A Space Odyssey. With the 'motion smoothing' on. It was horrible.
Kor
same. My Samsung is permanently on Filmmaker mode now. It's annoying that the default is the smoothing.
Last time I was TV shopping I tried the latest 4K UHD on the shelf. Biiig seller, said the salesman.
Set up and viewing though, peoples faces were morphing around worse than the TMP transporter accident victims. Could not take it back fast enough.
Totally put off 4K by that experience I settled on a larger 1080 for the same price.
Then I learned about the 'smoothing' feature option which, had I known of earlier, may have led me to keeping the 4k. They need to say that stuff in the showrooms.
I found the Rising Circle logo from Star Trek on YouTube that may have likely been sourced from the PAL DVD set (2004)! It was sourced from PlutoTV Spain and likely uses the master from the 2004 DVD set (PAL).
I just ordered the PAL DVD set!
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