I agree to an extent. But sir, I have one question for you.
with all the episodes out there, have you ever seen just one that excited you more then others?
One that made you think, what if they did a spin off of this....
In which timeline should the new series take place?
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I agree to an extent. But sir, I have one question for you.
with all the episodes out there, have you ever seen just one that excited you more then others?
One that made you think, what if they did a spin off of this....
^ Maybe we'll get that Gary Seven series.
This is still the JJ-Kurtzman-Orci team we're talking about. Regardless of setting, it is going to be Star Trek with a season-long story arc, mysterious revelations in every episode, weird humor, references to old non-trek shows and a shocking cliffhanger finale.
In another thread I suggested a setting in the distant future after civilization had essentially fallen and then risen again.
The timeline becomes largely meaningless as it's all faded into legend from the long past. Then you simply tell interesting stories exploring relevant issues about characters that we can relate to and care about. Overarching plots would be nice, but aren't essential.
The timeline becomes largely meaningless as it's all faded into legend from the long past. Then you simply tell interesting stories exploring relevant issues about characters that we can relate to and care about. Overarching plots would be nice, but aren't essential.
Fringe was one of the best scifi shows in recent years. A Trek series run like it would be so perfect that would make the Borg Queen overload.
Yes, I think that a soft reboot could work well. Continuity would be in broad strokes rather than references to complex/detailed canon. Indeed, one could be somewhat vague about the timeline, by not dwelling on it too much.
And, of course, one could be vague about the century by using the Star date.
Indeed, a new ship, a new crew, a new mission.
In terms of style there is some wiggle room. Consider uniforms-clothing styles change over time, and over long periods this has included uniforms.
Interesting idea, borrowing the best from Prime and JJTrek.
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That right there is an oxymoron. It was necessary to reboot Star Trek with the JJ movies precisely because Prime Trek was getting old and stale. Same thing with a new TV series.
The JJ movies aren't old and stale yet, they've barely been explored because there have only been two movies. Despite some issues with the script for Into Darkness, they were pretty popular and successful. Plus there is still a lot that could be done with that universe and it is one that most audiences are already familiar with.
That would be a substantial improvement on what we got from Trek on TV after about 1992.
Er, I didn't say that the JJ movies were old and stale.
I meant that we dont need another completely new continuity. For example some alternate universe version of TNG that is not connected to the movies or prime universe.
Reboot for the movies was necessary because movies wanted to use Kirk and Spock. That was the main reason. It was nothing to do with whatever state the Prime universe was in. "Reboot" could have also been applied to the Prime universe if they wanted to make completely new characters for the movie. For example a war is always a nice way to clean the slate, see the Doctor Who.
But by definition that would be a complete reboot.
It sure as hell did. DS9, Vogager, Enterprise, and the last two TNG movies all had an ongoing downward spiral between ratings and box office returns. After ENT was cancelled, Star Trek was effectively dead. Abrams "wanted to use Kirk and Spock" because he knew that those were the iconic things that everyone knew about Star Trek, even people who weren't fans. Yet another movie about Action Hero Picard and his partner in crime Data, or another TV show about some other boring crew on some ship somewhere that no one cares about because they've already done everything there was to do for the last 50 years was not going to fly.
Hundreds to a thousand years after TNG. That way, you can't tell which timeline it's from. If Vulcan is mentioned, it might be the new one, or the old one. Etc.
I just want Trek to be free of all the stuff that's been done before. I don't want to see anyone or anything show up from the previous shows. Except maybe some version of Data since he's conceivably immortal. Maybe he's the single thread. But, I'd make him a minor character. The new show should be fresh and original and able to go anywhere.
I just want Trek to be free of all the stuff that's been done before. I don't want to see anyone or anything show up from the previous shows. Except maybe some version of Data since he's conceivably immortal. Maybe he's the single thread. But, I'd make him a minor character. The new show should be fresh and original and able to go anywhere.
What about DS9? It was so dark and gritty and complex and the best Trek series.
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An exciting action-packed, thrill ride of a movie could be made in any timeline or universe. It's the filmmakers, not the universe. The script, direction, characters and story could be lousy or amazing whether in any timeline. And let's not forget budget. ST09 would have tougher to do on a Nemesis budget.
Budget wasn't the problem with Nemesis. A movie can be great with a small budget if the idea is good enough. With Nemesis, it just wasn't a good idea. It's basically an awkward retread of Wrath of Khan with pointless action scenes that don't tie in to the story (dune buggy chase) and Data's death shoved in, then immediately having that drama destroyed because Data backed up his memory to his exact duplicate. The movie is a complete mess and I think they thought it was going to be a hit purely because all the even Trek movies seemed to be good.
Even double the budget it would have been even worse. You can polish a turd until it sparkles like a diamond, but it's still stinks.
Even double the budget it would have been even worse. You can polish a turd until it sparkles like a diamond, but it's still stinks.
