That’s the key.
In the future of Syntehol, is there underage drinking?
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That’s the key.
Yeah but I think there would be less syntheol enjoyers. Like each time I say I don't drink because I don't like the taste of alcohol (because I don't want to bring down the mood with the real reason) you'd be surprised how many people respond that they don't like it either and then say they either forced themselves to get used to it or suggest several of the alcoholic drinks I mentioned earlier that mask the taste of alcohol with something else.
Also the old jokes that nobody drinks non-acoholic beer.
I do.
I generally despise most alcohols. The ones I like are typically more expensive and I'd rather spend money on something else. I also don't get the buzz from alcohol, and have a high enough tolerance that I don't wish to push it.
But, I do enjoy trying new things so will taste a wine, or enjoy a non-alcoholic beer with a friend who does enjoy the taste.
Alcohol is one of the extremely strange things to me that I really do not understand the interest in.
That's pretty much it right there, really. Some people do like a beverage or food simply for the effect it may give them, while some actually do like the actual flavor. For some, it may indeed be an acquired taste that others will never ever have...
I'm pretty sure I would hate synthehol if it really existed.
I mean, I'm no expert by any means, but I AM of German extraction
. I think I could tell if the beer I'm drinking is fake.
You can be for damn sure that the Oktoberfest would never serve synth-beer!
I mean, I'm no expert by any means, but I AM of German extraction
. I think I could tell if the beer I'm drinking is fake. You can be for damn sure that the Oktoberfest would never serve synth-beer!
Yeah I mean there must be people who drink it, but that's how those jokes go.
I mean, I'm no expert by any means, but I AM of German extraction
And I am a German expat. Because I can tell you I absolutely hate real beer. That stuff tastes like armpit water ugh!
I hope the Oktoberfest is still celebrated in Trek's time.
What confuses me about synthehol is the fact that it seems to co-exist so freely alongside the real deal. Romulan ale, Kanar, Klingon bloodwine, Andorian ale, Bajoran spring wine, three-tequila Troi in ST:FC, that bottle of bourbon Trip and Malcom demolished in Shuttlepod One--is that an homage to the "bourbon and beans" of ST:TFF?--and good grief, who knows what kind of a bar tab Scotty would have racked up on K-7 if he hadn't decked that Klingon. So clearly proper EtOH beverages aren't that taboo or unpopular.
Kind of makes me think along the lines of how smoking cigarettes is now seen as dirty and uncool, but vaping is widely seen as completely socially acceptable. (For the record, I myself don't smoke and I don't drink...other than a happy hour after-work highball, cocktails, a few glasses of wine at dinner, an after-dinner digestif, a nightcap and obviously mimosas and margaritas on vacation. Hardly ever other than that.)
Kind of makes me think along the lines of how smoking cigarettes is now seen as dirty and uncool, but vaping is widely seen as completely socially acceptable. (For the record, I myself don't smoke and I don't drink...other than a happy hour after-work highball, cocktails, a few glasses of wine at dinner, an after-dinner digestif, a nightcap and obviously mimosas and margaritas on vacation. Hardly ever other than that.)
I donno, cannabis is a pretty powerful alternative to drinking here in Canada.
Weed isn't just legal, it's easy to buy, can get you very high for cheap and you can pick exactly what you want.
Edible/drinkable cannabis products is a real game changer, it's more likely alcohol because you can drink it, but also because it stays in your sister for longer like alcohol.
It's worth noting that we're also really figuring out the finer points of Cannabis. Where you can fine tune your buzz by learning about the different Cannabinoids.
Also worth noting, how absurd Cannabis culture is. Where people tend to radically overconsume it. One of the big benefits of it being legal is you can find the perfect dosage/strain for your activity.
My friend is in love with CBG (he hates CBD) edibles. He says it's pretty much the perfect drug when done once a week at low dosages. Like you hear him describe it, and you're just like whoa, it makes no sense, but it is a thing.
That's because Wesley is a knob. We had holoaddiction on the show, unlikely they don't have a ton of others.
To me this is more of "the federation doesn't have poor people, everyone loves post scarcity and self betterment".
It depends on the chemistry of the drug.
Weed is "non addictive", because you get less of a buzz the more you do it, and eventually it just gets boring.
The best buzzes are when you're doing it on special occasions. Curious topic, but the "when" you're doing drugs is a underrated conversation in our society.
I imagine synthehol is like weed, where you get a saturation point where you don't enjoy it.
But yeah edible weed really is gonna be a thing that will reveal quite a bit. It amazes me how few people who've actually read the instructions on the package. Every edible story I've heard first hand has been "I took the whole thing, I have a high tolerance, btw it was absolutely awful, I felt nothing for 4 hours and then I was immobilized and couldn't get off the couch for a day".
A concept that most people forget about weed is that smoking something is a mega inconvenient. You have to prepare it, find a place to smoke it, and then get an instance overpowering hit of the thing. Edibles can be used very precisely, where you can get exactly the amount of a lift you want. If you really know what you're doing you can even do a full days schedule where you consume just the right cannabinoids at exactly the right part of your day.
I know it might seem like I'm a little preoccupied, but it's for the simple fact that sythenol sounds way more like Cannabinoids than anything else.
I'm not sure cigarettes' are uncool, in some ways they're cooler than they've ever been, because it's taboo to smoke in the first place.What confuses me about synthehol is the fact that it seems to co-exist so freely alongside the real deal. Romulan ale, Kanar, Klingon bloodwine, Andorian ale, Bajoran spring wine, three-tequila Troi in ST:FC, that bottle of bourbon Trip and Malcom demolished in Shuttlepod One--is that an homage to the "bourbon and beans" of ST:TFF?--and good grief, who knows what kind of a bar tab Scotty would have racked up on K-7 if he hadn't decked that Klingon. So clearly proper EtOH beverages aren't that taboo or unpopular.
Kind of makes me think along the lines of how smoking cigarettes is now seen as dirty and uncool, but vaping is widely seen as completely socially acceptable. (For the record, I myself don't smoke and I don't drink...other than a happy hour after-work highball, cocktails, a few glasses of wine at dinner, an after-dinner digestif, a nightcap and obviously mimosas and margaritas on vacation. Hardly ever other than that.)
This is all nice, but none of it is news and it has nothing to do with the substance of my post that you quoted.
Unless...are you suggesting that no one abuses weed or cannabis, or that the tendency is very rare? Because if so, you're wrong on that point as well.
You quite directly said how drugs work. in context of how sythihol is incompatible with a better form of booze.
I use weed because it's a pretty direct comparable to the idea of a sythehol, including the fact you can drink it.
The problems with weed aside it's still a step up from alcohol.
It's on a continuum between alcohol and video games in terms of addiction. It's also exacerbated by how little conversation we have about how to use it.
Very wrong, even in states were it is legal. Annoyingly so.
You can get addicted to just about anything, if you like it enough, do it often enough, or begin to rely on it to cope.
The side effects being "dismissed" quickly could refer to anything; reacts to stress-induced adrenaline, easily and quickly eliminated (may not require going to the bathroom - might be excreted in sweat, or breath), a post-hypnotic suggestion (by 0400 hours/with a particular sound or word, the effects will wear off), or there's a quick antidote available (think narcan, but self-administered and completely effective rather than merely buying time to get life-saving care).
The side effects being "dismissed" quickly could refer to anything; reacts to stress-induced adrenaline, easily and quickly eliminated (may not require going to the bathroom - might be excreted in sweat, or breath), a post-hypnotic suggestion (by 0400 hours/with a particular sound or word, the effects will wear off), or there's a quick antidote available (think narcan, but self-administered and completely effective rather than merely buying time to get life-saving care).
What's the point of an alcoholic drink without the alcohol?
May as well drink grape juice.
Na. The stuff I had was real Alcohol.
And yes there is a real life Chateaux Picard.
May as well drink grape juice.
Does anybody know if Chateaux Picard was Synthehol?
Na. The stuff I had was real Alcohol.
And yes there is a real life Chateaux Picard.
Computer super lemon haze 4/20.
Or in the 24th century do you think they have diffrent strains?#
Klingon Glory haze
Andorran brainfuck
Tellorite Brainwarp?
Romulan girl scout cookies
Cardassian genocide skunk
Vulcan mindmelt
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How was that supposed to work? Do you think "sober" and boom, you're straight.
Yup, like DrMike said, it sounds just like the placebo effect. I had a prank played on me once so I've experienced it myself. In my area the legal drinking age's 18. In my late teens I had two main friend groups, with one group I went out to party as soon as I was of age. With the other, we hung out at weekends talking, playing board games, having snacks and soda. We always had a lovely time without any intoxicants. Anyway, I suppose I'd told my non-drinking friends a few too many stories of the parties I went to with the other group, so one of them brought a couple of bottles of what I thought was wine to one of our parties. I had a few glasses and so did the others, and then I started to feel and act like I was a bit drunk. I certainly felt a buzz and was much more spontaneous and talkative than normal. At some point during the evening I took a closer look at the bottle and realized it was nonalcoholic. I've never sobered up so quickly before or since! It was quite amazing. Now if we could discover the pathways in the brain that make the placebo effect work and if we could tap into it at will, that'd be something similar to synthehol.
My uncle told me a similar story from when he grew up in Texas. One time he and his friends were riding their bikes and passed an old oak tree. One of his friends goes, "That's a pot tree." And the kids and teens in the local area became convinced of this fact. So much so that the local pot heads would sit around the tree and smoke it to the point that the police had it cut down.
The mind can do amazing things if we'll let it. Or stupid things.
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