can Wesley enjoy a mojito before class?
In the future of Syntehol, is there underage drinking?
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IIRC, with synthehol it's all about the taste of alcohol with none of the side effects. Baseline humanoids can't get drunk off the stuff no matter how much of it they consume. No physical impairment, no buzz, no slurred speech, no headache, no nausea, no upset stomach, no inclination to do something stupid, and no hangover the next day.
That being said...why would any underage person even bother with it?
That being said...why would any underage person even bother with it?
Here’s my problem with synthehol as a concept: would people really want to drink alcohol in large numbers if there was no buzz involved?
I know “mocktails” are a real thing already in the 21st century, but that’s usually something for a non-drinker/designated driver to have and not feel out of place at a table where people are drinking the real stuff.
Patron tequila tastes like diesel fuel. Why would you do shots of that for the taste if there were no alcoholic effects involved?
I know “mocktails” are a real thing already in the 21st century, but that’s usually something for a non-drinker/designated driver to have and not feel out of place at a table where people are drinking the real stuff.
Patron tequila tastes like diesel fuel. Why would you do shots of that for the taste if there were no alcoholic effects involved?
IIRC, synthehol does give the same buzz that real alcohol does, but the effects can be easily dismissed with little or no hangover.
I can buy a future drink without a hangover, but I would argue the buzz has to be different than a normal alcoholic buzz. As someone who has drank too much in the past, alcohol has a jolly/silly effect on me that lowers inhibition. I can't see that being conducive or safe to returning to duty after downing 2 synthelol versions of Long Island Iced Teas, especially if those people have to go into a crisis with the Romulans where response time and accuracy of orders is paramount.
It would have to be a different time of buzz from alcohol that gives euphoria without affecting motor reflexes and judgments.
It would have to be a different time of buzz from alcohol that gives euphoria without affecting motor reflexes and judgments.
Synthehol is probably *still* illegal on Vulcan.
Does anybody know if Chateaux Picard was Synthehol?
Does anybody know if Chateaux Picard was Synthehol?
Oh, so water then? Or is Synthehol something more like this:IIRC, with synthehol it's all about the taste of alcohol with none of the side effects. Baseline humanoids can't get drunk off the stuff no matter how much of it they consume. No physical impairment, no buzz, no slurred speech, no headache, no nausea, no upset stomach, no inclination to do something stupid, and no hangover the next day.
That being said...why would any underage person even bother with it?
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Synthehol has the flavor of alcohol, but that's about it. So unless you come from a species that can't even handle soft drinks, it's about as intoxicating as a soda. I don't think synthehol appeals to anyone other than those who like the taste of various spirits, and may even be considered uncool by some.
According to Data in Relics, synthehol's "intoxicating effects can be easily dismissed."
Which, to me, implies you can get drunk off it, it just can go away easily.
https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Synthehol
Quark sells various synthetic drinks at at his bar (including 'synth ale'). So it is certianlly popular enough to make money off of.
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I believe Synthehol is like nitrous oxide, it has an effect but that effect evaporates quickly.
No.
The point of synthehol was that you could get drunk, but you could stop being drunk whenever you liked.
Seven of Nine got very drunk off synthehol in a couple episodes of Voyager because her remaining Borg implants made it so her body couldn't correctly process it.
There was an alien species encountered in Voyager that lacked the enzyme to breakdown whatever synthehol is made of and their Ambassador got very drunk off it.
There was an alien species encountered in Voyager that lacked the enzyme to breakdown whatever synthehol is made of and their Ambassador got very drunk off it.
Hehe.
Most humanoids can't get drunk off it at all.
Same can be said for soft drinks in general.
Not quite true. For most humanoids, you can't even start to get drunk off it (I specifically said in my initial post "baseline humanoids," which took into account that there are exceptions).
The noted exceptions. For everyone else, though, drink up...
Yes, the point of inventing synthehol was to have a "harmless" recreational drug where you could get high but make yourself sober whenever you felt like it. During the run-up to the Star Trek II TV series that was never made, Roddenberry contemplated eliminating alcohol from the series. Instead, synthehol was invented for TNG. It was described in the original TNG Writers/Directors Guide.
Frankly, the idea was the product of really not understanding how drugs like alcohol are abused to begin with - it was a kind of fantasy solution to abuse that didn't require any change in the problematic drinker's behavior.
In the novelverse, synthehol is a Ferengi invention. While negotiating with customers, Ferengi drink synthehol, while the customers themselves (unaware that synthehol even exists) are given real alcohol. Thus the Ferengi dealmakers can easily dismiss the effects while the customers remain stone cold drunk.
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Everyone can, just some species process it faster than others. There is minor intoxication according to Data.
Gene Roddenberry stated that as well.
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It's a mistake to confuse Memory Alpha with references that were actually used by the people making the shows. M-A is all long after-the-fact. But you get encyclopedic error - because something which may have been a misunderstanding or not authoritative in its origin is stated authoritatively at a site like that and then widely repeated as a result, it's accepted as "fact."
I don't think it was synthehol in that case. Just regular champagne. Seven had never consumed alcohol before and thus she was completely unprepared for its effects.
How intoxicating can it be if it's negligible though (or as Data put it, "easily dismissed")? With a few exceptions, people aren't going to get wasted drinking synthehol when all is said and done.
It was synthehol champagne, but still, it was a case that her Borg implants couldn't process it and she wasn't prepared for it.
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