Plus... he's DS9s answer to Kenny. 
In the Cards
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Last time I watched this I realized that if the Soulless Minions Of Orthodoxy were an actual agency, their acronym would be SMOO.
I still want to know how Geiger survived longer than five seconds after saying, "Do you want to die?" with a bunch of armed Jem'Hadar in the room.
Jem'Hadar are trigger happy but they're not incapable of logical and especially tactical reasoning. They knew Geiger was unarmed and incapable of harming them.
Just rewatched this and enjoyed it quite a bit. I love the ending, where the boys had been unwitting agents of our mysterious universe in altering the mood of so many of the station's officers. Funny how things can have powerful impacts on us while we remain blissfully unaware of them.
Poor Leeta. <cue sad trombone>
Poor Leeta. <cue sad trombone>
I really enjoy this episode. DS9 had a tendency to be very dark and heavy with the war, and these lighter episodes were a great break once in a while.
Indeed, this, one little ship, magnificent ferengi and badda bing all work well, often because of their juxtaposition with the heavier episodes.
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Having said that, as a new member of our community you can't be expected to know all the rules yet and people seem to be happy to continue the discussion so I will leave the thread open.
Happy posting!
Come to think of it, why wasn't the card Buck Bokai? DS9 was usually big on repeating the same established references.
Yeah, but Willie Mays needs no introduction. If they used Buck Bokai they'd have to spend a couple of lines explaining that he was a famous future baseball player.
I hate sports, and Willie Mays was still a famous name to me. As Babe Ruth was.
Thanks for explaining this.
Truth is, I am aware that gravedigs can be annoying and are normally considered a violation of forum etiquette. But at the same time I've seen any number of threads started on a topic that get shouted down because "We've already discussed this."
In light of those remonstrances I assumed the opposite etiquette applied on this site. Perhaps in order to let longer-term members lord their longevity over everyone else as superiority.
Clearly that isn't true, so I'll be looking forward to moderator comment in the future whenever the slap-happy old timers unload on anyone for daring to express an opinion.
Excluding that wince-inducing "lions, Geigers, bears" line, which is just terrible, one of DS9's perfect episodes. It's such a difficult thing they're doing here, and it feels effortless.
I like that the two stand-out Jake episodes are DS9's best comedy and it's most powerful tearjerker. He got lost in the shuffle a lot, but this and "The Visitor" really justify Jake's place on the canvas.
Other random "In The Cards" thoughts: it's also the best episode of the series for Winn. I love that they paid Chase Masterson for 10 seconds of screentime and no lines. And every time I watch it, I'm surprised to be reminded that Michael Dorn was the director. It's incredible he nailed such a tricky tone in his first directing job.
I like that the two stand-out Jake episodes are DS9's best comedy and it's most powerful tearjerker. He got lost in the shuffle a lot, but this and "The Visitor" really justify Jake's place on the canvas.
Other random "In The Cards" thoughts: it's also the best episode of the series for Winn. I love that they paid Chase Masterson for 10 seconds of screentime and no lines. And every time I watch it, I'm surprised to be reminded that Michael Dorn was the director. It's incredible he nailed such a tricky tone in his first directing job.
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Dorn directed three episodes, not one of them a dog. This one was by far the lightest of the three, but it was far from inconsequential to the series.
I think Star Trek directors, whether they be actor/directors like Dorn in this case, or regular series directors like David Livingston, or Winrich Kolbe don't get nearly enough credit in fan discussions. The focus seems to always on the writers and actors. The reverse seems true also. When a scene is seen to come off poorly, the actors and/or writers are usually blamed.
Cheers for the Director's chair, Dorn, and In The Cards, an excellent episode!
Cheers for the Director's chair, Dorn, and In The Cards, an excellent episode!
The general wisdom tends to be that writers have the most control in television, directors in film. I think that tends to be because writing tends to be more active on the production side of television than film, the writing staffs of each series extensively rewriting each episode, even when none of their names appear in the byline. Conversely, television directors are handed a script that they must study before jumping into production. I agree that a director might improve or tank and episode, it's the writers who are providing the ideas and maintain the standards and quality of the series.
Of course, there are times the director lends something essential to the episode, such as the aforementioned Kolbe's combat experience in Siege of AR-558.
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