In STAR WARS, What Is "The Academy?"
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Nowhere Man
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I thought that they just kept Jango's DNA on file, I don't know much about cloning though. I guess if they could find Boba, they could make some more clones. So by episode 4 the Stormtroopers are not Clones?
^ If they had Jango's DNA on file, then why would he need to live there?
Nowhere Man
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True, that makes sense.
I find it hard to believe that the Empire have the only Academy. Wouldn't each side want to train their own forces? Doesn't really make much sense for anyone to be trained on one side just to be trained. Plus, there's probably a neutral academy somewhere.
As I said a few posts above...
It's doubtful that the Rebellion would have a "training camp" in the sense that the Empire would as it would be an Imperial target just like their main military base was, and probably less mobile. Rebel troopps were more likely trained in the forests at Yavin. As for a "neutral academy"? In Imperial run space? Doubtful.
The problem with it being a Rebel Academy is that its too well known for a start. If some moisture farmer in the arse end of nowhere knows about your training facility then the Empire is bound to know as well.
Based on my exceedingly hazy memory of the Star Wars novelisation, it's the Imperial Academy and Luke intended to go, get trained and then defect to the Rebellion. But only because Biggs had done it first.
And i'd imagine the Skywalker name is why Uncle Owen keeps delaying his application rather than any desire to stop him becoming another Vader, the second Luke applies it'd be flagged up and no doubt the Empire would be very interested to know why a farmer had been raising a dangerous force user.
Based on my exceedingly hazy memory of the Star Wars novelisation, it's the Imperial Academy and Luke intended to go, get trained and then defect to the Rebellion. But only because Biggs had done it first.
And i'd imagine the Skywalker name is why Uncle Owen keeps delaying his application rather than any desire to stop him becoming another Vader, the second Luke applies it'd be flagged up and no doubt the Empire would be very interested to know why a farmer had been raising a dangerous force user.
Nowhere Man
Commodore
The real question is whether or not the Rebel Allience is it's own sustaniable government like the Confederate States of America or are they just a hodge podge of different cultures within the Empire who are trying to restore the Republic like Nazi occupied France during WW2. A resistance movement, if you will. My guess is the later since everything has to be hidden and done in secret, while still maintaining the Senate. Even if if it did declare it's indipendence formaly, the Emperor obviosly wouldn't recognize them. Therefore he calls them Rebels. If the Rebel Allience is it's own government, then it's reasonable to think that they would have an academy. Either way I think it's safe to assume both sides have training procedures before they go into battle.
It takes 10 years to grow a clone, so training non clones would probably be faster.
I think it was an alliance of various rebel groups that all wished the Empire to fall, but had their own separate agendas, at least at first. An alliance of those wanting to restore the Republic, those who wanted a new Republic with a different constitution, neo-separatists local militias, etc., all working together towards the common goal of overthrowing the Empire. I am sure they had their own factions within the Alliance that we never see, that may have fought against each other, formed splinter groups and all other sorts of stuff that happen in a revolution. However, it does seem as though the Alliance to restore the Republic is the most prevalent.
This was my take on it too.
He could have wanted access to the Kaminoans' technology for some other reason. To train his son, for example.
Or perhaps Jango simply thought it was a safe place to live - that no one would come looking for him and try to kill him, if such a powerful race like the Kaminoans were living there (with the clone army being grown there too).
Seems plausible; what better place to hide out than a planet that your boss has wiped off the galactic roadmap? I also figured he was there to keep taps on the cloning operation.
On the DNA argument, I guess it depends on how advanced we imagine the Kaminos' technology to be. The corruption of stem cell lines is a common problem in real world research, so it's possible the Kaminos had the same issue.
As for the Academy, I always assumed it was the Imperial Academy, but I envisioned it as a big network of campuses.
Playin' with the boys.
To train the clones.
Skywalker said:
I recall in the comic book adaptation and novelization of "Episode IV" the deleted early scene between Luke and Biggs Darklighter on Tatooine in which Biggs announced his intention to join the Rebellion.
I think his reaction in both were "Are you crazy?"
I believe most things by the time of Episode IV had "Imperial" slapped onto it. The Academy that Luke was referring to need not have been a training program for Imperial officers but merely a flight school for licensed spaceship pilots. Now, it's possible that one could be conscripted into Imperial service at any point afterwards, but that's another issue, IMO.
Maybe there's an Imperial Naval Academy that is something entirely different from what Luke was talking about...
The clones were also, by the time of ANH, supposed to include other genetic templates than just Jango Fett.
The novel strongly suggests that it was more of a merchant marine academy. Biggs tells Luke that he is now first mate of a freighter named Rand Ecliptic. "First mate," the title also used for Chewbacca, is definitely not a traditionally military title, and "freighter" generally refers to a merchantman. Biggs' outfit in the deleted scenes is not like any Imperial uniform that we've seen, but is more reminiscent of what Luke was wearing in the award ceremony at the end of the movie (though Biggs sports a stylin' black cape!). Biggs' rapid ascent to second-in-command may suggest a small commercial vessel with only a few crew members, like the Falcon, but IIRC the NPR radio play changed his position to "third mate."
What "The Academy" came to mean later on is beyond me, but I think the original intent was that it was not a training school for the Imperial forces, and Luke did not plan to join up with the Empire.
--Justin
