Impact Alert?

Discussion in 'Star Trek Movies: Kelvin Universe' started by Neumann, Sep 4, 2010.

  1. Neumann

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    I was checking our good Star Trek movie and I noticed that around 1hr and 36 minutes into the movie while they are warping back to earth there is a quick flash of an Impact Alert on the main viewscreen!

    Did anyone notice that before? Is it just a spec of dirt the enterprise deflected or what? :vulcan:
     
  2. F. King Daniel

    F. King Daniel Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    Are you sure it didn't just say "red alert"?

    Also 1:36 on my DVD is when Kirk and Spock beam to the Nerada.

    EDIT: I just saw it! At 1:33 and it's because the Enterprise is screaming towards Titan. Sulu drops them out of warp inside the moon's atmosphere - less than a second later and they would have hit the Titan at warp 4! :eek:
     
  3. shapeshifter

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    Awesome!
     
  4. Flying Spaghetti Monster

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    always wondered why they even went to earth, scotty could beamed em from anywhere with his equation
     
  5. UFO

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    True.

    But I guess its so the Enterprise could provide support for Spock's egg-beater if needed. Kirk would have known there was an egg-beater they might be able to get their hands, on even if he didn't bother telling NuSpock. Apparently all such information would have stuffed up the universe or something. ;)
     
  6. Neumann

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    Well that Impact Alert appears for half a second and then there is a big flash, I don't think it had to do with Titan yet but was something else! I might put a screenshot of that :)

    Regarding the transwarp beaming, have you guys checked the concept art for the movie? Originally the enterprise was going to follow the narada quite close so there was not going to be any need for that kind of beaming.

    [LEFT]
    CHEKOV
    Based on the Narada's course from Vulcan,
    I've projected that Nero will travel past
    Saturn. If we could drop out of warp
    behind one of Saturn's moons, say, Titan,
    the magnetic distortion from the planet's
    rings will make us invisible to Nero's
    sensors. We could follow him to Earth by
    staying in his blind spot.

    KIRK
    What blind spot?

    CHEKOV
    Its exhaust wake. If we adjust our
    shield frequencies, they shouldn't detect
    us.

    So it seems that the enterprise was going to be doing this instead

    http://www.jamesclyne.com/images_gallery/trek_01_245_457.jpg
    [/LEFT]
     
  7. F. King Daniel

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    ^In the early script at IMSDB.com, Enterprise drops out of warp behind the moon, before sneaking up into Nerada's exhaust.

    When a ship's moving at insane faster-than-light speeds, the computer's gonna give you plenty of warning when you course intersects with a planet. I really think it's a warning about Titan, especially since it's just before Sulu starts his 5-second countdown.
     
  8. UFO

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    Oh, thanks for the info. The old "adjusted shield frequencies in the exhaust wake trick" eh? Why didn't I think of that! Mind you, when you see the Narada's exhaust as it accelerates after the Jellyfish, I'm not surprised they thought better of it! And of course such a manoeuvre would have meant they had to get to Saturn at the same time Nero did or better.

    Your post also explains Chekov's comment about Nero travelling past Saturn, which in the final version is irrelevant. I just thought it was filler. They seem to have left in a number of lines that make better sense in the original draft.
     
  9. M'Sharak

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    I guess I'm not looking in the right place, because I haven't spotted it yet. Can you tell me what else is happening at the moment that "impact alert" warning appears?
     
  10. F. King Daniel

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    It's when we get a shot of the viewscreen just before Sulu starts his countdown at about 1:33. It's red text that flickers in the centre of the screen for just an instant, almost lost in the blue warp speed effect.
     
  11. M'Sharak

    M'Sharak Definitely Herbert. Maybe. Moderator

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    Okay, got it. It was at 01:36:58 on the digital copy I'm watching in iTunes and it really is "blink and you'll miss it" - just getting it paused to make the screencap took a couple of tries.

    [​IMG]

    Good spot, Neumann.
     
  12. Devon

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    Subtle detail and really cool!
     
  13. F. King Daniel

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    Okay, now I want to know why it's 1:33 on my (Reigon 2/UK) DVD and 1:36 on the digital copy :vulcan:.
     
  14. M'Sharak

    M'Sharak Definitely Herbert. Maybe. Moderator

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    I don't have the answer to that, unfortunately, but I don't doubt someone around here will know.
     
  15. Neumann

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    I guess that if you continue watching the scene frame by frame you will notice a big flash on the viewscreen, maybe is was a spec of dirt then :rommie:

    Why is there such a differece in the timing between the digital and the region 2 version, that is almost 4 minutes :(
     
  16. Captrek

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    PAL speedup. It’s not missing anything, it just plays 25 frames per second instead of NTSC’s 24. (Actually NSTC’s frame rate is 30 fps (29.97 fps if you want to get really pedantic), converted from film’s 24 fps by a technique called 2:3 pulldown. Timing-wise that makes it essentially equivalent to the film’s original 24 fps.)
     
  17. F. King Daniel

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    Ah, thanks. Now that you mention it, I vaguely recall reading something similar about running times of movies at the cinema vs. VHS video releases from way back.
     
  18. Nero's Shadow

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    Well blow me down I've watched the film countless times and never noticed the impact alarm. Just another reason to watch the film again me thinks . !!!!!!
     
  19. kkozoriz1

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    You'd think that there'd be a big honking red light to alert you to that.