^I think that is a fan theory. Can't think of any 'canon' statements that make any connection between trelane and the Q (or disprove such a connection). But please correct me if I'm wrong.
Immortality is discovered and is then promptly ignored
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He's mentioned in the book Q Squared..... That's where I got this from. I haven't read the book in ages so don't hold me to that but I'm pretty sure it's mentioned in there. Also Q makes the claim to have met and spoken to God
^I myself wouldn't count that as 'canon', and therefore it would be a fan theory/writer speculation to me. Not a fundie on this, though, to each his own preferences.
Books are of course, not canon. Besides, according to the same book, WNMHGB takes place in an alternate timeline (explaining James R Kirk) and that Gary Mitchell was taken over by Q as part of his quest back to the Prime Universe.
Anyway, in the show, considering Trelane had to rely on technology for his power and abilities, I'd say that makes it clear he's not a Q.
Anyway, in the show, considering Trelane had to rely on technology for his power and abilities, I'd say that makes it clear he's not a Q.
Q(Quinn) says:
QUINN: But you mustn't think of us as omnipotent, no matter what the Continuum would like you to believe. You and your ship seem incredibly powerful to lifeforms without your technical expertise. It's no different with us. We may appear omnipotent to you, but believe me, we're not.
TUVOK: Intriguing. Just what vulnerabilities do the Q have?
QUINN: Always looking for the tactical advantage, Mister Tuvok. Very good. As a matter of fact, that's why I've come to see you. In a way, our vulnerability is what this is all about. As the Q have evolved, we've sacrificed many things along the way. Not just manners, but mortality, and a sense of purpose, and a desire for change, and a capacity to grow. Every loss is a new vulnerability, wouldn't you say?
QUINN: But you mustn't think of us as omnipotent, no matter what the Continuum would like you to believe. You and your ship seem incredibly powerful to lifeforms without your technical expertise. It's no different with us. We may appear omnipotent to you, but believe me, we're not.
TUVOK: Intriguing. Just what vulnerabilities do the Q have?
QUINN: Always looking for the tactical advantage, Mister Tuvok. Very good. As a matter of fact, that's why I've come to see you. In a way, our vulnerability is what this is all about. As the Q have evolved, we've sacrificed many things along the way. Not just manners, but mortality, and a sense of purpose, and a desire for change, and a capacity to grow. Every loss is a new vulnerability, wouldn't you say?
If a lot of Trek technologies were applied wholesale you wouldn't have a show. Transporter bombs, miracle cures, all sorts of stuff that would completely destroy the drama. Sure you could probably have immortal genetically engineered crews with applied borg nanoprobes dyson sphere resources, transwarp ships all sorts of stuff that wholly applied would radically alter the IU situation.
They'd be between the Voth and Organians in power level and would basically be unbeatable.
Existing outside of time and space and being gods for all intents and purposes means contradictions no longer apply.
Don't forget transwarp beaming which for all intents and purpose rids one of the need for any kind of spaceship.
The technology of the Argrathito to simulate memories in an artificial reality may hold a key to immortality too. During DS9 episode "Hard Times", O'Brien experienced 20 years of memories in a few hours. If you feel life is passing by too fast or don't feel like going to work for a while, just hook yourself into their machine and spend a few decades in another reality instead.
Another virtual reality don't you mean?
No thanks. That's what holodecks are for and then you can turn those off.
But it has the effect of making hours feel like decades. You can do a lot in a couple decades.
OK but what? Raise a family have a job, build houses?
There is a downside to the procedure. All of the memories become forgotten within a few days...
...at least by the next episode.
There is a downside to the procedure. All of the memories become forgotten within a few days...
...at least by the next episode.
Except for The Inner Light...... Picard remembered that for a while, even got a flute too?
sit on a beach somewhere
Did Tom Paris and Sandrine ever hook up?
He's a field medic, pilot, and has some technical knowledge. That doesn't mean he can do everything.
Whether that would do you any good depends on how much of your remaining lifetime the experience consumes. A few days, or twenty years?
If your brain experiences twenty years, it gets worn down by the appropriate amount. Heck, your body requires two decades' worth of food in order to keep the brain running through the experience. If OTOH the brain just thinks that 20 yrs passed (we only really saw O'Brien rot in that cell for half an hour or so, after all), then it won't accumulate much in the way of skills. It may accumulate confidence in such skills, though - you might consider yourself a veteran tightrope walker after an appropriate fantasy, with all the consequences!
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