Are the Captain's chair, helm & navigation & weapons stations the only manned positions on IKC Amar? From the images I've been able to find there are no manned communications or science stations.
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IKC Amar Bridge Stations?
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You're talking about the ST:TMP Klingon bridge, right? I've pulled out the relevant page (executed by Lee Cole) from the TMP blueprint packet, and it shows the following stations:
Captain's chair -- front center
Navigation console -- two-seater behind captain's chair
Weapons scanning turrets -- paired turrets at bridge aft
Communications console -- starboard wall
Damage control console -- port wall
Captain's chair -- front center
Navigation console -- two-seater behind captain's chair
Weapons scanning turrets -- paired turrets at bridge aft
Communications console -- starboard wall
Damage control console -- port wall
...The side stations do not appear to have any seating, and might not be expected to be permanently crewed.
There is also at least one Klingon just standing around, or walking from console to console - probably the first officer, or whatever his Klingon equivalent. No seating available for him anywhere. But as the set is apparently supposed to follow the shape of the externally visible command superstructure (flat ovoid forward, round tower rising through its aft half), we can probably assume that there would be a second level to the circular aft part of the bridge, with more stations.
Timo Saloniemi
There is also at least one Klingon just standing around, or walking from console to console - probably the first officer, or whatever his Klingon equivalent. No seating available for him anywhere. But as the set is apparently supposed to follow the shape of the externally visible command superstructure (flat ovoid forward, round tower rising through its aft half), we can probably assume that there would be a second level to the circular aft part of the bridge, with more stations.
Timo Saloniemi
I doubt the ship was intended to have 1:1 station correllaries to the Enterprise. Anyway, Andy Probert's color rendition of the set as originally conceived to be a lot bigger and had areas for stations to the left and right of the captain. At least one pencil sketch indicates a room above the rear part of the bridge, up in the "tower" and looking out the windows seen on the outside of the hell there.
GodThingFormerly
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How's the captain supposed to relay orders to his crew if eveyone is behind him? Shout even LOUDER? You noticed how Mark Lenard's character is always barking at his subordinate over his shoulder...
Mark
Mark
I assume that voices would echo pretty well off those hard metal walls.
^^The relevant image from that site (scanned from the ST Fact Files) would be this one:
http://www.st-spike.org/images/interiors/ktinga_bridge.jpg
http://www.st-spike.org/images/interiors/ktinga_bridge.jpg
Well, that's the whole idea. The captain can't appear like he's a weakling hiding behind his crew. He has to appear bold and fearless, to be the one at the head of the troops, leading the charge into battle.
Besides, I'm sure footsteps echo pretty well off those metal walls. An alert commander could hear an assssin coming. And a worthy commander wouldn't be subject to many assassination attempts because his crew would respect his right to lead them. Whereas an unworthy commander, one who gives his crew reason to want him dead and isn't alert enough to detect an attack from behind, doesn't deserve to be in command anyway.
Reminds me of one of the (never used) designs for a Romulan bridge, which had the captain's chair at the rearmost station - where he or she could see everyone, and would be impossible to sneak up on.
Romulans would be that paranoid, but Klingons wouldn't.
Romulans would be that paranoid, but Klingons wouldn't.
Hmm, I'm not so sure maybe. TMP came out before the Klingons began being depicted as "honorable warriors". In Errand Of Mercy we found that all Klingons, even the planetary governor, were constantly under surveillance. So there seems to be a certain paranoia in the original Trek portrayal.
(Also suggests monitoring systems that could keep servitor races in check are routine equipment.)
Though it doesn't answer anything one way or the other, another thing to consider is that most other "warrior races" depicted in the original Trek (Friday's Child, the mirror universe, etc.) figured a good bit of treachery into their "honor" code. So a TOS Klingon commander might be at least a little paranoid.
Mark
These three drawings might also help. Note in the third drawing the extra crewmembers behind the displays on either side of the captain.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v82/goose814/002.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v82/goose814/star-trek-the-motion-picture-sheet-.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v82/goose814/klingonbridgeconcept.jpg
Gus
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v82/goose814/002.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v82/goose814/star-trek-the-motion-picture-sheet-.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v82/goose814/klingonbridgeconcept.jpg
Gus
What if there were stations located behind the displays on either side of the captain's chair that weren't seen? There are drawings that show some kind of space in Star Trek the magazine.
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