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If you're thinking about getting a Google Drive account...

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http://cloudsecurity.trendmicro.com/the-hidden-3rd-party-vulnerability-in-google-drive/

...the Terms of Service for the new Google Drive may open a new legal argument that hurts adoption of cloud storage for everyone. To see why this can happen, it helps to understand how courts interpret the Fourth Amendment to the US Constitution, which provides that the people shall “be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures…”

Dropbox — terms here:
“Your Stuff & Your Privacy: By using our Services you provide us with information, files, and folders that you submit to Dropbox (together, “your stuff”). You retain full ownership to your stuff. We don’t claim any ownership to any of it. These Terms do not grant us any rights to your stuff or intellectual property except for the limited rights that are needed to run the Services, as explained below.”
Microsoft’s SkyDrive — terms here:
“5. Your Content: Except for material that we license to you, we don’t claim ownership of the content you provide on the service. Your content remains your content. We also don’t control, verify, or endorse the content that you and others make available on the service.”
Google Drive — terms here:
“Your Content in our Services: When you upload or otherwise submit content to our Services, you give Google (and those we work with) a worldwide licence to use, host, store, reproduce, modify, create derivative works (such as those resulting from translations, adaptations or other changes that we make so that your content works better with our Services), communicate, publish, publicly perform, publicly display and distribute such content.
The rights that you grant in this licence are for the limited purpose of operating, promoting and improving our Services, and to develop new ones. This licence continues even if you stop using our Services (for example, for a business listing that you have added to Google Maps).”
Google, WTF? Your terms of service for Google Drive absolutely destroy any argument that content uploaded to your cloud storage service has a reasonable expectation of privacy. Therefore, data on Google Drive is not subject to subpoena and is clearly open to viewing by law enforcement under the Third Party Doctrine.
But wait, it gets better. Google is one of the largest cloud providers on the planet. Once Google decimates Fourth Amendment protections for their cloud storage, how long will it take for law enforcement and courts to make the argument that all cloud storage shouldn’t be protected by the Fourth Amendment? Not long. Google is a large corporate citizen, large enough to set precedent with their actions.
I have account but it's currently empty.

I daren't even look at what iCloud does.
 
have an account but never use it...

lot easier just to set up a private FTP account via server and access my stuff wherever i want directly from my computer / phone / laptop...

M
 
ahh thats where i'd have the problem... with an FTP i'm not limited for space...

for example, when i'm on a shoot, i can easy shoot worth of 90gb of photos in RAW in 3 to 4 hours... so i just take the memory cards to my laptop and FTP them direct to my home computer for backup... lot safer and more secure than any cloud options

M
 
When I'm on a shoot (video, not stills) I just bring along two hard drives and make clones of all the material. Besides, internet costs in NZ are crap; it would cost hundreds of dollars to send 90Gb of data...
 
Yeah, I was thinking about it until I thought about it, and once I thought about it, I decided I was crazy for thinking about it. :D

I have 2.5GB on Dropbox and a Pogoplug. For now, that works for me. :)
 
I use DropBox... if I need more space I'll make up a gmail account, send an invite to it. Then I use a school computer to install dropbox onto and get another 0.5gigs, in addition to the new account by sharing it. So I end up getting 2.5gigs each time.

I takes about a minute to do it.
 
So if you upload your creative works to Google storage, you surrender your Copyright to them? That's absolutely ridiculous.
 
That's a very selective read of the terms and conditions of each of those cloud services and each has it's own problems, for example:

Nilay Patel, writing a comparison of cloud storage services in The Verge, says that while Google's terminology may be "a little off-putting," it is actually a bit more restrictive than some others. For example, he notes that Dropbox's terms of service says, "You give us the permissions we need to do those things solely to provide the Services."

While that language, "is definitely friendlier than Google's, it's actually more expnsive, since it's more vague," Patel writes.

"Where Google specifically lists the rights and permissions it needs to run its services using precise legal terminology like 'create derivative works,' Dropbox just says you're giving it 'the permissions we need.' Exactly what those permissions are is left unsaid and undefined -- and could change as Dropbox changes the types of services it provides."

http://www.pcworld.com/businesscent...public_cloud_problem_says_privacy_expert.html
 
That's a very selective read of the terms and conditions of each of those cloud services and each has it's own problems, for example:

Nilay Patel, writing a comparison of cloud storage services in The Verge, says that while Google's terminology may be "a little off-putting," it is actually a bit more restrictive than some others. For example, he notes that Dropbox's terms of service says, "You give us the permissions we need to do those things solely to provide the Services."

While that language, "is definitely friendlier than Google's, it's actually more expnsive, since it's more vague," Patel writes.

"Where Google specifically lists the rights and permissions it needs to run its services using precise legal terminology like 'create derivative works,' Dropbox just says you're giving it 'the permissions we need.' Exactly what those permissions are is left unsaid and undefined -- and could change as Dropbox changes the types of services it provides."
http://www.pcworld.com/businesscent...public_cloud_problem_says_privacy_expert.html

Dropbox had a change in policy a while ago; which changed their views to match what Google currently say (but explicitly so). they changed it back after a couple of weeks when people dropped away... :)
 
I will never use anything even remotely "cloud". You don't know where the files are and you don't know who has them. When will people learn they're just handing over their life's most important things without understanding how it will be used? Call me paranoid if you want...Google does. In my experience, I'm usually called paranoid by someone right before they stick the knife in. If that makes me paranoid, I will wear it as a badge of honor. Piss on Google and all the rest of them. :mad:
 
I use Google Docs a lot, so I don't know what to think about it being changed over to Google Drive. Part of me feels that this would be a bad decision. I hope that they keep the Google Docs part of document collaboration the way it is, otherwise they might screw up a good service.
 
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