If you do a war then doesn't Pike and the Enterprise have to show up?

[Crazyewok]

No
Space is huge, the federation is huge.

The federation has potentially thousands of ships.

 

[Gonzo]

This show fits very easily into the Kelvin timeline.

It does a bit, my thinking is that its a big galaxy so there is plenty of space for them to miss each other even if at times they do visit the same places.

I would love for them to show the Enterprise and Pike though, would be a great ship cameo, it really depends on what purpose the Discovery is built for and where it is sent, I know the clue is in the name but we have been given hints that not everything is as it seems on board.

Would be interesting to see what changes they would make to the Enterprise if any, would they design it like the Europa or would they keep it close to TOS after all the Discovery has a very unique design to any other ship we saw during the battle, we believe the Discovery is an R&D ship but perhaps the ship itself is the experiment.

As I have said before I don't mind if its a reboot or not but the design of the Discovery is very different in certain aspects to anything we saw in TOS or the original films from the cutouts in the saucer to the shape of the engineering section (both of which I am heartily in favour of by the way), it makes me suspicious.

Alternatively would they be too terrified to even attempt it in fear of the fanbases reaction, many of us were here when the new films came out and the fallout that came after.

 

[Gonzo]

The funny thing is, when there was heated war (one that Starfleet saw coming a long way off) in "Errand of Mercy", the Enterprise was not assigned a combat task at all. She was instead sent to visit some backwater planet that supposedly was of strategic significance (to the Klingons?), but had to immediately flee when challenged by Klingon forces there.

That's classic cruiser stuff - a second-rate ship running errands and fleeing at the first sight of enemy capital ships or superior enemy cruiser forces. That Kirk's ship is "heavy" may confuse the issue somewhat, as some heavy cruisers were wielded like capital ships in the past wars, but apparently Starfleet doesn't think that way.

One wonders... How does NCC-1701 compare to NCC-1227 or NCC-1031 combatwise? Georgiou's ship is said to be "old" - is Lorca's ship then even older, with that lower registry, and is Pike's ship perhaps not particularly modern as of 2256, either? Did we glimpse higher registries in the battle scenes of "Binary"? More capable combatants? Blatantly newer or bigger designs?

Timo Saloniemi

As for the registry it could be:

A hint at the purpose of the ship - Section 31 R&D.

OR

There could have been an original Discovery NCC-1031 before the current one hence the lower number on a newer ship than the Shenzou, the lack of a letter at the end is a question though, perhaps the letter additions only started with the Enterprise onwards as I have never seen another ship in Star Trek with a letter after its name that isn't Enterprise.

Personally Lorcas ship looks much newer and more advanced than the Shenzou or any of the ships we saw at the battle even the Europa, also the change in colour on the Discovery makes me suspicious as well.

 

[Tuskin38]

They did. Both in kelvin(except the big E) and in the two DSC ones we have seen. They are totally differing art directions.

No, some of the ships had sharp angled nacelles like the Shenzhou, some had blocky nacelles, some had curved saucers like the Shenzhou, some had saucers that looked more like a Miranda/Refit Connie.

The Kelvin would fit in fine.

 

[Gonzo]

No, some of the ships had sharp angled nacelles like the Shenzhou, some had blocky nacelles, some had curved saucers like the Shenzhou, some had saucers that looked more like a Miranda/Refit Connie.

The Kelvin would fit in fine.

Truth be told the only ship that doesn't really fit is the Discovery itself, perhaps its the ship itself that's the experiment.

 

[Tuskin38]

Truth be told the only ship that doesn't really fit is the Discovery itself, perhaps its the ship itself that's the experiment.

The Europa had similar warp engines to the Discovery, in shape that is.

 

[Gonzo]

The Europa had similar warp engines to the Discovery, in shape that is.

True but the colouring and the engineering section shape in a pretty big departure from the norm as shown by all the ships during the battle, same goes for the saucer section, I have taken a look through the battle carefully and not one of the other Starfleet ships has a cutout saucer.

Its a great idea but odd that the Discovery is the only one, whoever designed the ship certainly didn't design the others we saw.

 

[Mirror Mirror]

No, some of the ships had sharp angled nacelles like the Shenzhou, some had blocky nacelles, some had curved saucers like the Shenzhou, some had saucers that looked more like a Miranda/Refit Connie.

The Kelvin would fit in fine.

Nope, They all have that oddball nacell structure, same with the deflector, this is a JJ style. The DSC had many styles sure, but none of the JJ styl. The crossfield class is more angles than most of the ones we saw, but used some of the style elements. I will have to look over it but the Europa had hard angels as well.

It is just a basic design direction. The Kelvin would need a rework. Maybe you should go back and look at the design, it needs some key reworks to fit within the art style. Its like you have a guest artiest drawl a character but change nothing else.

 

[Timo]

Utter bullshit. If DSC goes for diversity, then nothing, bar nothing, will feel out of place. They could drop Star Wars vessels in there right now and we would barely notice.

Timo Saloniemi