If you could recreate Harry Kim....

[Lynx]

^^
PS
Note that my post above has no intention to attack posters who want to recreate Harry Kim or ridicule Harry Kim in any way.
I just wanted to write a somewhat humoristic response from Harry Kim himself, the whole thing seen from his view.
Personally I find him the weakest of the Voyager characters but still a likeable one.
DS

 

[stardream]

Harry was brave and he was smart...and I can't imagine Voyager without him. I don't know what the show would have been like if he had been kicked off. Having said that though the character was left to stagnate.

At one time I wondered if the reason the character came across as 'bland' was because he was so often paired up with Paris. (No..not in THAT way). Whether you liked Tom or not he certainly had a presence about him. Here is the cute but naive young cadet against the pretty charming ex-con fly boy. The sun and moon type of thing.

Then I watched him interacting with other characters and no..that had nothing to do with it. Harry was Harry no matter who he was with. Its too bad. Wish they had done more with him.

 

[apollo1984]

I always found it funny that despite all the "harry hate" that he was the main character in the anniversary episode, I personally liked harry, but I did find he did not have a lot of growth.

With the idea of promotions surly it would not have broke the command structure too much for him to have been promoted to LTJG or full LT I mean forgetting about the Maquis or ex prisoner that were given ranks higher than him, Tuvok also got a random promotion for his dedication and service aboard voyager, does that mean Kim did nothing for several years, did he not play a big part in re-taking voyager after it was taken over by the hirogen, help with the intergration of borg technology to re-design astrometrics etc.

 

[stardream]

I always found it funny that despite all the "harry hate" that he was the main character in the anniversary episode, I personally liked harry, but I did find he did not have a lot of growth.

With the idea of promotions surly it would not have broke the command structure too much for him to have been promoted to LTJG or full LT I mean forgetting about the Maquis or ex prisoner that were given ranks higher than him, Tuvok also got a random promotion for his dedication and service aboard voyager, does that mean Kim did nothing for several years, did he not play a big part in re-taking voyager after it was taken over by the hirogen, help with the intergration of borg technology to re-design astrometrics etc.

Timeless makes me want hit my head against the wall. Its proof that they COULD do interesting things with the character and Wang could pull it off ....if they had only put forth some effort.



At least he gets some interesting things to do in the books.

 

[Kilana2]

Yes. Harry gets Tuvok's job and is promoted. Finally, you may think. Kirsten Beyer is great. Still, Seven gets the best scenes, even in the novels.

 

[hux]

Timeless makes me want hit my head against the wall. Its proof that they COULD do interesting things with the character and Wang could pull it off ....if they had only put forth some effort.

So am i the only one who thought he was equally inept in the Timeless future? Yeah sure, he's more jaded and cynical but he's still a muppet.

EMH: And how did you get involved with Bonnie and Clyde here?
TESSA: Oh, I've had an interest in Voyager for a long time.
KIM: They're having sex.

What kind of grown man says that? He could say 'they're in a relationship' or 'they're seeing each other' but no, our Harry plumps for 'they're having sex', like some kind of petulant teenager having a strop.

Timeless Harry is still the least competent person in the room as far as i'm concerned.

 

[Mark_Nguyen]

Trek has a lousy reputation for its Ensigns. I think it's because for them, the rank is what defines their characters, at least according to the writers. This inherently limits them to developing within the rank, which as an Ensing you can't really do. Chekov and Mayweather had the same basic problem. I think Nog escaped because his job didn't define him - he was Ferengi and ALSO young and idealistic, giving him a breadth of potential stories to mine. The others? They were... Ensigns. Regardless of their jobs, they would always be at the bottom of the totem pole and the writers would automatically give others the authority in the scene. Outside of the franchise, remember Lt. Ford on Stargate Atlantis? Same deal. At least THOSE writers took the initiative to mercy kill him - his replacement was Chewbacca. And HE worked.

Recreate Harry? No. Promote him, give him command authority that we can believe in? Yes.

And yeah, ditch the clarinet. Give him a gun fetish or something adult, not another quality that made him come off as being fresh out of band camp.

Mark

 

[Lynx]

Yes. Harry gets Tuvok's job and is promoted. Finally, you may think. Kirsten Beyer is great. Still, Seven gets the best scenes, even in the novels.

And Kes is nowhere to be seen.

At least Beyer brought Janeway back, gotta give her credit for that.

But I prefer the season 1-3 books, like "The Black Shore", "Marooned", "Violations" and all the others.

 

[Kilana2]

Yes. Harry gets Tuvok's job and is promoted. Finally, you may think. Kirsten Beyer is great. Still, Seven gets the best scenes, even in the novels.

And Kes is nowhere to be seen.

At least Beyer brought Janeway back, gotta give her credit for that.

But I prefer the season 1-3 books, like "The Black Shore", "Marooned", "Violations" and all the others.

Kes shows up in at least one of the String Theory novels, if I'm not mistaken. It's been long since I have read it, though.

 

[DGCatAniSiri]

Kes appears in String Theory, and has a cameo in 'The Eternal Tide' that ties in to what happens to her in String Theory.

 

[Lynx]

Yes. Harry gets Tuvok's job and is promoted. Finally, you may think. Kirsten Beyer is great. Still, Seven gets the best scenes, even in the novels.

And Kes is nowhere to be seen.

At least Beyer brought Janeway back, gotta give her credit for that.

But I prefer the season 1-3 books, like "The Black Shore", "Marooned", "Violations" and all the others.

Kes shows up in at least one of the String Theory novels, if I'm not mistaken. It's been long since I have read it, though.

I have the "String Theory" books. A bit heavy read as I see it and it's the third book which is really interesting. But at least they did a decent try to get rid of all the damage that Braga, Fuller and Michael Taylor did to the character.