If these non-Trek ships were in the Trek Universe, what ship class equivalent would they be?

[Mark_Nguyen]

Imagine some of your favorite ships from your favorite non-Star Trek series, movies, games, and so on. What equivalent starship classes, ship types, etc. do you think they'd be? Justify your selections; note that they don't have to be Starfleet. Feel free to add your own!

1) USS Orville, "The Orville"
2) C-57, "Forbidden Planet"
3) Rodger Young, "Starship Troopers"
4) Valley Forge, "Roughnecks: Starship Troopers Chronicles"
5) Andromeda Ascendant, "Gene Roddenberry's Andromeda"
6) USS Sulaco, "Aliens"
7) Serenity, "Firefly"
8) Star Destroyer, "Star Wars" et. al.
9) Heart of Gold, "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy"
10) Helicarrier, "The Avengers" movie et. al.
11) SR2 Normandy, "Mass Effect"
12) Galactica, "Battlestar Galactica" (either version)

Mark

 

[diankra]

I think it's a non-question. Different series have different rules for FTL. Heart of Gold for starters works by breaking the rules ("Infinite impossibilty").

 

[trekshark]

or they get retconned to using trek style warp when they get brought over
Serenity for example is never made clear if it's ftl or not. they're apparently in a single system, yet travel is still only days usually at most, and it's different system than Sol.

 

[publiusr]

USS Orville is found by Voyager...a ship from a Federation type outfit, the Protector as well, or that could be an Alpha Centauri design. The Seeker is an in system shuttle. Spock’s Jellyfish and Earth2 designs are Talosian. Gould designs are Kulkukan’s probes. Cygnus is a sleepership. Armus designed the Shadow vessels. The Lexx is Xindi insectoid.

Drago’s Dragonship is an armed Neutral Zone outpost replacement with the Star Command listening post.

The craft from ARRIVAL? Yarnek’s ship with Horta crew.

C-57 is in a Sargasso Sea episode. Ori ships are the pre-ascended Doud craft.

Rodger Young is from a primitive, warlike group—like what killed Riva.

Valley Forge, "Roughnecks: Starship Troopers Chronicles" (rival faction)

Andromeda Ascendant is the new Cytherian ship used instead of probes, or an ISC battleship from SFB

USS Sulaco is a scavenger ship chasing Serenity, ship of Okona’s friend.

Star Destroyer is an extragalactic threat

Heart of Gold is the follow on of the Relativity.

Helicarrier? Khan’s first ride in the Mirror Universe.

SR2 Normandy—Section 31’s ship, or a fast Orion ship.

Galactica, "Battlestar Galactica" (either version)——Gorn ships

Trident Corsair from EARTH*VOYAGER is a shelliak corporate ship.

Kahless rides the Draconia.
The ID4 ships are the Vegan Tyranny.

 

[Go-Captain]

Imagine some of your favorite ships from your favorite non-Star Trek series, movies, games, and so on. What equivalent starship classes, ship types, etc. do you think they'd be? Justify your selections; note that they don't have to be Starfleet. Feel free to add your own!

1) USS Orville, "The Orville"
2) C-57, "Forbidden Planet"
3) Rodger Young, "Starship Troopers"
4) Valley Forge, "Roughnecks: Starship Troopers Chronicles"
5) Andromeda Ascendant, "Gene Roddenberry's Andromeda"
6) USS Sulaco, "Aliens"
7) Serenity, "Firefly"
8) Star Destroyer, "Star Wars" et. al.
9) Heart of Gold, "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy"
10) Helicarrier, "The Avengers" movie et. al.
11) SR2 Normandy, "Mass Effect"
12) Galactica, "Battlestar Galactica" (either version)

Mark

1. Orville is Voyager, a fast scout/frigate and survey ship for short-length (months long) mission profiles.
2. C-57 kind of like the above, but given its limited crew and size it's maybe less than an Oberth or Nova. A very short-length mission profile ship with very minimal defense and used as a kind of patrol ship for checking on colonies. This would fit into the Lower Decks concept of second contact and other second rung ships doing background work.
3. Rodger Young is an amphibious landing ship, poorly armed, and deriving most of its force by the infantry it carries. Nothing in Trek actually fits this despite fan theories about the Akira.
4. I know the show but remember nothing about the ship.
5. Andromeda Ascendant is basically a what if of the Enterprise-D where it had more emphasis on warfare, and everything else second, instead of everything else first and combat last. Even so, the Borg do note the Enterprise-D as the most powerful ship in Starfleet, and Andromeda was of the second most powerful class in the fleet. I would say Andromeda is like the Sovereign class in that it's multi-mission but more combat oriented. So it's a battleship.
6. Sulaco is a troop transport like the Rodger Young.
7. Serenity is La Sirena. It's a small cargo ship.

Normandy is kind of like the Defiant, if the Defiant had more emphasis on infiltration baked in.

 

[Mike McDevitt]

1) 3WA TroCon spaceship Lovely Angel “Dirty Pair”
2) Melmacian Orbit Guard fighter “ALF The Animated Series”
3) JMC shuttle Starbug “Red Dwarf”
4) Snark-class Speedster Aluminum Mallard “Space Quest III”
5) CEC Starrunner-class starship Sand Sloth “Star Wars Droids”
6) Levitz-Giffen Legion cruiser Mark 11 “Legion of Super-Heroes Sep ‘83”
7) UN Spacy SDF-1 “Super Dimension Fortress Macross”
8) Jagaroth War Spider “Doctor Who: City of Death”
9) Bauman Drive prototype Earth*Star Voyager “Earth*Star Voyager”
10) UD-4L Cheyenne Dropship “Aliens”

For Trek translations of classes, I'll have to think about it and come back later!

 

[Mike McDevitt]

1) Lovely Angel shares general size, speed and color scheme with the Kzinti “police vessel” Traitor’s Claw. But could the Claw have destroyed a planet? Only if the planet was already pretty dang delicate.

2) Melmacian OG fighter: a Bajoran sub-impulse raider (maybe?) comes the closest to the rickety in/near atmosphere two-seater combat jet. But the Bajorans rather sensibly have canopy technology.

3) Starbug’s ostensibly no different than any old cargo shuttle at starbase Yorktown... if you made it over like a fat grasshopper. Not intended for use above sublight but it certainly gets around, so it probably had a salvaged warp drive even before a temporal paradox turned the interior dimensionally transcendental. Miraculously sturdy but there’s little resale value as it’s 7 Leap Ice Ages old.

4) Aluminum Mallard is Warp-capable, seats 3, and was probably banged together in somebody’s garage. They’re boxy, but they’re good. Mallard is what you get if the Delta Flyer really let itself go.

5) Sand Sloth is essentially the same as the Merchantman aka Class III tanker if you also gamma-welded on huge disruptor cannons and strapped your hovercar to the roof for Boonta weekend adventures!

6) Legion cruiser Mark 11 has a profile like a small, sanded-down unpainted Ferengi D’Kora-class but it’s modular, interstellar, seats dozens of humanoids... it’s likely a step up from a Danube-class runabout.

7) SDF-1 accidentally swallowed a city, so maybe ISS Charon or the Voth city ship. She’s built like a steakhouse but she handles like a bistro.

8) Is a Jagaroth War Spider more like Arachnia’s spider ship or a Ba’ul Sentry? I dunno, but without this monstrous beastie hunting down ancient Racnoss and blowing up at the wrong time you don’t get a biosphere on Earth.

9) Earth*Star Voyager: The good ship kindergarten on a colony mission to Berenson’s star from a worn-out Earth. I don’t know enough details about any of them to say if it’s most like the SS Conestoga or SS Mariposa or Uncle Jack Kim’s sleeper ship.

10) The Cheyenne corresponds slightly to the Intrepid Class’s aero shuttle or the D’Kora’s unused drop ship, except hecka cooler. But, then again maybe THOSE drop ships are no realer than Arachnia’s spider ships? Since when does Starfleet go on bug hunts, man?

 

[Kraig]

I always liked this wall paper for ship comparisons between different SCI universes.

 

[Bry_Sinclair]

USS Orville, "The Orville" = Already is a Trek ship, like the NSEA Protector
Rodger Young, "Starship Troopers" = Excelsior-Class, a solid and dependable multi-mission platform
USS Sulaco, "Aliens" = Steamrunner-Class springs to my mind, not sure why
Serenity, "Firefly" = Miranda-Class, the ever reliable Ford Truck of Trek
Star Destroyer, "Star Wars" et. al. = Akira-Class
Galactica, "Battlestar Galactica" (either version) = Ambassador-Class, once the pinnacle of the fleet now overlooked by the newer, flashier ships

 

[FederationHistorian]

1) Nova Class

2) Ferengi Marauder

3) Excelsior Class

4) Reliant Class

5) Borg Cube

6) SS Botany Bay

7) Runabout

8) Constitution Class/K’tinga Class

9) USS Discovery

10) USS Voyager

11) Crew complement wise, Klingon Bird of Prey. Just like there are different size frigates in the Mass Effect Universe (SR2 Normandy (ME 1-3) and the Tempest (ME: Andromeda)), there are different sized Birds of Prey (B’Rel, D12).

From a 22nd century perspective, it is comparable to the NX-01; Normandy has biotic crewmembers, shields, shuttles & hovertanks, whereas the NX-01 has MACOs, transporters, grappler, and shuttlepods.

12) Deep Space Nine

 

[matthunter]

TARDIS = Any example you can think of and then you're still screwed.

Bigger on the inside = future timeships from Enterprise, explicitly copying the Old Girl.

Chameleon circuit = holoship from Insurrection, or the USS Incursion from the video game Away Team - but these are mere holograms, the TARDIS' outer shell actually becomes the mimicked substance as far as touch and other senses go.

Alive and sentient but in a way that the crew can't quite grasp = Tin Man. But even Tin Man can't perceive multiple timelines and future events - the Prophets are a better example but no-one flies around space inside them (except Joseph Sisko, nudge nudge wink wink).

So powerful that killing it could destroy the whole universe if not done properly? No Trek examples - the chaos caused by improper use of a Romulan singularity core in Timescape is a mere shadow of what we saw in The Pandorica Opens/The Big Bang.

 

[publiusr]

I really like this thread. Trying to find make different ships fit into Trek.

Who gets Babylon 5’s shadow ships?

The Lexx for the Xindi insectoid.. also give them the scarab looking Jem ‘Hadar craft and vice versa

 

[Forbin]

or they get retconned to using trek style warp when they get brought over
Serenity for example is never made clear if it's ftl or not. they're apparently in a single system, yet travel is still only days usually at most, and it's different system than Sol.

Serenity was slower than light, but the flashy boost engine cranked the speed way up there, but ignoring relativity. It was a single solar system with five suns and hundreds of planets, the better ones being chosen for terraforming and settlement. Travel times were speed-of-plot, but definitely sublight. Joss Whedon always said that trying to figure out real science made him cry.

 

[publiusr]

Sounds like the Trappist system.
Monks and beer...