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If there was a timeline where World War 3 was an alien invasion instead of a terrestrial war amongst

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They point of this invasion isn't conquest. it's to get humanity to stop fighting, though these particular aliens think the best way to do this is to attack them and present yourself as the big bad. Because peace isn't going to be enough to get a bunch of hairless apes with thousands of years of wars and conflicts to lay their arms and get along as a single united race. The aliens assailing Earth would know about Humanity's long history of wars and conflicts and would reach the conclusion that the only way for them to stop destroying each other is to get them to fight against a common enemy that threatens the entire species.
fighting fire with fire.

Like WW3, Earth's nation states would still resort to using Nuclear weapons on the aliens when conventional warfare fails or a stalemate forms and it would still lead to a post-atomic horror (with crashed alien ships dotting the landscape). Still be a massive amount of devastation, though this time, half of it was wrought upon by the alien forces. The Majority of humanity would not be able to immediately reverse engineer and study the alien technology left behind as surviving a post apocalyptic world would be the most important thing in mind.

The question here is how it would affect Humanity's view of extraterrestrial life as well as Cochrane's phoenix flight. If that ever still happens in this timeline. How would tis affect first contact with the Vulcans.

Personally I find an alien invasion a much easier pill to swallow because it unites Humanity against a common enemy rather than having them squabble amongst themselves.
 
Like one set of aliens invading to get humans to pull together, then become cynical and misanthropic xenothropic until another species trots on by and convinces they're really good by doing nice things to help?

If WW2 didn't unite the world against the Nazis, then what would make WW3 onward be the impetus for people getting along?
 
Like one set of aliens invading to get humans to pull together, then become cynical and misanthropic xenothropic until another species trots on by and convinces they're really good by doing nice things to help?

If WW2 didn't unite the world against the Nazis, then what would make WW3 onward be the impetus for people getting along?

Simple, the percieved threat of genocide from the invaders.
 
Sounds a bit like Dr. Manhattan's plan from Watchmen..
Why would those aliens sacrifice their own people in a nuclear mock war in some vague hope that it will unite humanity?
I mean the whole plan is a long-shot, even more so because there's no guarantee that the nations of Earth wouldn't start fighting again the moment the aliens are gone.
 
Sounds a bit like Dr. Manhattan's plan from Watchmen..
Why would those aliens sacrifice their own people in a nuclear mock war in some vague hope that it will unite humanity?
I mean the whole plan is a long-shot, even more so because there's no guarantee that the nations of Earth wouldn't start fighting again the moment the aliens are gone.
Ozymandias.
 
Alien invasion would not, IMHO, work as far as WW3 goes.

Because human technology of the time would never be able to stand up to such an invasion - it would completely wipe everything out.

(For that matter, so would an actual World War Three...still waiting for an explanation as to how humanity recovered so quickly, but that's a matter for another day.)
 
Alien invasion would not, IMHO, work as far as WW3 goes.

Because human technology of the time would never be able to stand up to such an invasion - it would completely wipe everything out.

(For that matter, so would an actual World War Three...still waiting for an explanation as to how humanity recovered so quickly, but that's a matter for another day.)
What if there was a civilization barely capable of warp drive., less than ten light years from Earth, with technology on par to early 22nd Century.. Humanity in Trek's 2050 may be able to fight back...
 
It would make the mirror universe.

A bunch of pissed off, amped up, war mongering xenophobic paranoid humans.
 
Well, canon Trek supports the idea that the realization that we are not alone in the universe would unite mankind in a way that would be impossible prior to such knowledge. So, it seems problematic that aliens would be so “kind” so as to attack us in order to provoke us into uniting against them and attacking them in return, when they could simply reveal themselves to us.

It would be easier to believe that the aliens were actually hostile invaders and that mankind united to counter these hostiles. However, it could be that the aliens later came to respect the united humans and sued for peace by means of a cease fire.

If your timeline were to progress, however, I think it would be impossible to ignore the potential for a resurgence of augmented humans as many embryos remained after the Eugenics War from some decades earlier. It seems likely that mankind would resort not only to nuclear weapons but also to genetic ones. It might be that not only does mankind unite against the aliens but also a new race of augmented humans would join the union, at least at the start.

Trek canon tells us, however, that augmented humans and humans wouldn’t get along forever. So, eventually, you’d have humans, augmented humans, and aliens, and then maybe augmented aliens too.

How would this timeline affect human view of alien life? It might not be much different than canon Trek after all. When the Vulcans revealed themselves to humans, they naturally generated the perception that there was potential for an outside threat as well as good things. This perception along with all the other emotions the human family would experience was the catalyst for the uniting of mankind. So, wheather the aliens attacked or not might have little different effect other than uniting humans, in Trek.

Cochrane’s flight would perhaps have been after alien contact and after human unity rather than result in alien contact and human unity if the aliens were hostile and attacked around WW3. Cochrane’s flight would perhaps be an attempt by humans to contact other aliens in hopes of finding otherworldly allies against a return of the attacking aliens or other hostile aliens rather than an experiment in warp drive. It might even have taken place in an alien warp ship or hybrid alien/human warp ship. Probably humans would have found the Vulcans and asked them for help rather than the Vulcans finding the humans.

The timeline might then resume a somewhat familiar path after that.
 
I strongly recommend you read the worldwar saga by Harry Turtledove. I wouldn’t be that certain that an alien invasion would unite humanity!
 
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