If there WAS a Season 8
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Since it is just a fantasy how season 8 would be, it should be something close to canon right after the ending of season 7. The war is over, granted. Kira is in charge of DS9, granted. Having one extra season would not settle all the loose ends in a nice package.
With so many characters moving on, it would take a number of new characters as replacements. With Jadzia Dax leaving after season 6 and being replaced with Ezri Dax in season 7, there has been that debating conflict was her replacement worth it. How bad it would be if in season 8 you had to replace the characters that left (Odo, Sisko, O’Brian). Other series other then Star Trek have tried replacement characters only to be cancelled within one or two seasons.
Since it is fantasy to deal with season 8, maybe Ezri Dax has to deal with Ezri Tigan from the mirror universe. Oh guys, think of that fantasy of the two women alone.
With so many characters moving on, it would take a number of new characters as replacements. With Jadzia Dax leaving after season 6 and being replaced with Ezri Dax in season 7, there has been that debating conflict was her replacement worth it. How bad it would be if in season 8 you had to replace the characters that left (Odo, Sisko, O’Brian). Other series other then Star Trek have tried replacement characters only to be cancelled within one or two seasons.
Since it is fantasy to deal with season 8, maybe Ezri Dax has to deal with Ezri Tigan from the mirror universe. Oh guys, think of that fantasy of the two women alone.
The Dominion should win the war. Season 8 would be Season 1 of the next series, Star Trek: Resistance. 
(A Season 8 for DS9 alone would feel anticlimatic and tacked-on.)
Yknow, if the Doms were a really crafty enemy, and I do think they are, they could precipitate a civil war simply by treating the Federation member worlds well. Starfleet would never surrender of course and we can count on a few militant planets - Earth, Andoria, probably those wacky Vulcans - but a lot of them would just shrug and get on with life and be mad at Starfleet for continuing to cause a ruckus.
I usually scoff at Fed Civil War scenarios as untenable, but the Dominion could actually make this plotline plausible.
Section 31 would be fighting on the Starfleet side of course, and maybe desperation would allow Starfleet to be more ahem liberal minded about their methods. After all, if they'd only let Section 31 go ahead with their genocide plan, they wouldn't all be in this mess...
(A Season 8 for DS9 alone would feel anticlimatic and tacked-on.)Yknow, if the Doms were a really crafty enemy, and I do think they are, they could precipitate a civil war simply by treating the Federation member worlds well. Starfleet would never surrender of course and we can count on a few militant planets - Earth, Andoria, probably those wacky Vulcans - but a lot of them would just shrug and get on with life and be mad at Starfleet for continuing to cause a ruckus.
I usually scoff at Fed Civil War scenarios as untenable, but the Dominion could actually make this plotline plausible.
Section 31 would be fighting on the Starfleet side of course, and maybe desperation would allow Starfleet to be more ahem liberal minded about their methods. After all, if they'd only let Section 31 go ahead with their genocide plan, they wouldn't all be in this mess...
Federation Civil War, it is an idea, it is just not really in the cards with a season 8. There are a number of role play games dealing with a Federation Civil War, even than the administrator has placed the era sometime around the 25 th century way past the DS9 era. Having a Federation Civil War right after the Dominion War would be almost impossible to pull it off. Reason, the last Star Trek movie was post DS9 and there was no talk or debate about a Federation Civil War. Third reason, as much fun as it would be to have a civil war; it is my feeling a war even a fake fantasy war would be counterproductive. People watch Star Trek to live out their fantasies. With the real current war for everyone having to deal with and having a fake civil war would be asking a lot from the fans to deal with both issues at the same time.
Any "Civil War" plot line would need to be handled carefully, so it that it flowed naturally from previous events. It couldn't be just "let's have a civil war"; it's been done on a certain other space station show already. There would have to be something about it that made it unique to the Trek universe.
Some reason building the plot for a Federation Civil War would be different and nothing that has happened before. Star Trek is about building the characters within the federation not the federation building its own character with characters as the background.
The fans would need to understand why the federation council is breaking down into fractions. The only reference with any type of civil war the fans do understand was the Klingon Civil Wars, but that was wars to deal with leadership of the Klingon High Council. Having a Federation Civil War on the grounds of having a leader, would be breaking hundreds of years of a democracy.
There is a different reason to have a Federation Civil War, something that has never been tested: it could start because of a total economic collapse of the economy. Once again, with forty years of Star Trek we really do not understand the economic theories of the federation. Federation members never talk about money, it is there but not really a subject anyone understands as that is not really the reason people are fans.
So, needing to talk about politics and the economy and why it is failing: gee that is not my Star Trek. Needing to debate these issues just to get into a Federation Civil War, heck it would be terrible to watch.
The fans would need to understand why the federation council is breaking down into fractions. The only reference with any type of civil war the fans do understand was the Klingon Civil Wars, but that was wars to deal with leadership of the Klingon High Council. Having a Federation Civil War on the grounds of having a leader, would be breaking hundreds of years of a democracy.
There is a different reason to have a Federation Civil War, something that has never been tested: it could start because of a total economic collapse of the economy. Once again, with forty years of Star Trek we really do not understand the economic theories of the federation. Federation members never talk about money, it is there but not really a subject anyone understands as that is not really the reason people are fans.
So, needing to talk about politics and the economy and why it is failing: gee that is not my Star Trek. Needing to debate these issues just to get into a Federation Civil War, heck it would be terrible to watch.
Well, I'm gonna risk actually giving a serious answer to this thread...
Personally, I'd love to see Kira and those left on the station come together and try to help Jake really come into his own, now that his father is gone... Cassidy is there, yes, but once again, he is still left without a parent... and as he is the child of the Emissary, I'd like to see how that ends up playing out...
Would Jake be invited to live on Bajor? If so, would he accept, feeling that maybe his being on Bajor would make him somehow feel closer to his father? Would he return to Earth to be with grandpa (or did gramps die?), or would he remain on the station?
The episode "The Visitor" was for me THE most powerful bit of writing ever, for ANY Star Trek show, so I'd really like to see the continuation of the father-son elements on DS9, with Jake and his dad. Maybe his father could come to HIM in a "wormhole vision", and tell Jake that it's okay, and he shouldn't feel sorrowful... that he knows Jake can be great, and has faith in him? Or maybe Jake gets a Runabout, and goes into the wormhole himself, to try and contact his father?
Personally, I'd love to see Kira and those left on the station come together and try to help Jake really come into his own, now that his father is gone... Cassidy is there, yes, but once again, he is still left without a parent... and as he is the child of the Emissary, I'd like to see how that ends up playing out...
Would Jake be invited to live on Bajor? If so, would he accept, feeling that maybe his being on Bajor would make him somehow feel closer to his father? Would he return to Earth to be with grandpa (or did gramps die?), or would he remain on the station?
The episode "The Visitor" was for me THE most powerful bit of writing ever, for ANY Star Trek show, so I'd really like to see the continuation of the father-son elements on DS9, with Jake and his dad. Maybe his father could come to HIM in a "wormhole vision", and tell Jake that it's okay, and he shouldn't feel sorrowful... that he knows Jake can be great, and has faith in him? Or maybe Jake gets a Runabout, and goes into the wormhole himself, to try and contact his father?
I think a lot could be done with the occupation and rebuilding of Cardassia. It would be the new eastern Europe with Klingons, Romulans, and the Federation at odds over it. They could keep Garak around as some kind of ambassador with an office on DS9. Sisko would be sent back by the prophets to facilitate healing of relations between Bajor and Cardassia. There could be a radical faction of CArdassians disgruntled over their planets fate as a pawn in galactic affairs, and they threaten to create a new, hostile government (think Hitler's rise to power in post WWI Germany).
Bajor should join the Federation in the first episode of season 8.
There would have to be a major story-arc involving the other side of the wormhole. You could see Odo convincing the founders to work with the Federation to tackle some kind of common threat/problem, with Section 31 trying to sabotage such efforts, threatening to provoke a second war.
You could also have some stand-alone episodes involving exploration of non-Dominion controlled Gamma Quadrant. Perhaps we could even see another episode involving Iconian technology.
Bajor should join the Federation in the first episode of season 8.
There would have to be a major story-arc involving the other side of the wormhole. You could see Odo convincing the founders to work with the Federation to tackle some kind of common threat/problem, with Section 31 trying to sabotage such efforts, threatening to provoke a second war.
You could also have some stand-alone episodes involving exploration of non-Dominion controlled Gamma Quadrant. Perhaps we could even see another episode involving Iconian technology.
Oh yes, Ro Laren should definetly come back. Think of the tensions between the Ro and Kira.
Ro all hardcore nationalistic and Kira who's become more liberal.
It could be cool if Worf could come back after awhile too.
Then we'd have
Worf
Kira
Ro
Ezri
Bashir
Quark
Jake
Cassidy
Nog could make Guest appearances, and Rikers "twin" could make guest appearances too, maybe he could be a big part in rescuing Sisko
And in the end, the return of Sisko
Ro all hardcore nationalistic and Kira who's become more liberal.
It could be cool if Worf could come back after awhile too.
Then we'd have
Worf
Kira
Ro
Ezri
Bashir
Quark
Jake
Cassidy
Nog could make Guest appearances, and Rikers "twin" could make guest appearances too, maybe he could be a big part in rescuing Sisko
And in the end, the return of Sisko
misskim86 said:
Oh yes, Ro Laren should definetly come back. Think of the tensions between the Ro and Kira.
Ro all hardcore nationalistic and Kira who's become more liberal.
It could be cool if Worf could come back after awhile too.
Then we'd have
Worf
Kira
Ro
Ezri
Bashir
Quark
Jake
Cassidy
Nog could make Guest appearances, and Rikers "twin" could make guest appearances too, maybe he could be a big part in rescuing Sisko
And in the end, the return of Sisko
Do not forget Ezri and the mirror Ezri
Ro
Kira
Leeta
Ezri
Oh yes ... were going to have a girl party
A civil war amongst the Federation (humans) after the end of the more widespread intergalatic war? B5 fans would have REALLY had something to complain about then.
8th season ideas (if Sisko hadn't jumped into the fires):
1-Bajor is torn between those who want to finally join the Federation and those that want no part of it considering the Feds are basically non-religious and that it could draw the Bajorans into another intergalatic war the next time one arises. In the end Bajor will join the Federation of Planets.
2-The falling apart of Cardassia continues.
3-The Dominion's defeat leads to some changes in the Gamma Quadrant in which the Dominion licks its wounds and abandons some of its conquered territory as it rebuilds its military. In part this happens because the Dominion, despite arguably still being more powerful than the combined might of the Feds, Klingons and Romulans do not fully trust the solids to live up to the peace accords and want to pull their forces in tighter around the more important Dominion worlds. The Jem'Hadar are replaced by more lethal genetically engineered soldiers who will fight for the Dominion. As a result the GQ is left with thousands or millions of genetically engineered soldiers who were only made for war and now no longer have any battles to take part in. In other words they have no outlet for their natural aggression and even worse they were not meant to live long in the first place and therefore hardly any of them know what to do with themselves in a post-conflict scenario nor are most used to the idea of growing old. This leads to even more conflict and destruction in the Gamma Quadrant.. Odo, who has yet to leave for the Great Link fulltime (I would push that back towards the end of the 8th season if one had been commissioned), will be spending quite some time trying to put out the fires of a raving Jem'Hadar but their faith in the Changelings have faltered.
4- the chickens begin to come home to roost for Sisko, either internally or externally. His actions that brought the Romulans in the war (and his guilt for it that is starting to tear into him), his devotion to stopping the Marquis at all costs, his going against his Starfleet rules by and training by accepting his role as arguably the most important Bajoran religious figure, his defying the Prophets by marrying Kassidy, so on. Well, things start to go wrong for him. There is a split in a religious sect based upon Sisko's role as Emissary (remember those guys that try to kill him at the beginning of season seven?). A religious war breaks out on one of the continents on Bajor with those that favor The Sisko on one end and those that don't on another. Sisko is in a bind because as a Starfleet officer he isn't supposed to interfere in these sorts of conflicts even despite the fact that he is the root of the divide.. Anti-Sisko forces eventually burn down that house Sisko built on Bajor and Sisko finally understands that the warning from the Prophets that "The Sisko is of Bajor but he will find no rest here" is very much on target. Sisko will come to the decision that he must leave Bajor and DS9, otherwise his presence could tear apart the planet even further. However near the closing episodes an attempt is made on his life from a bitter former Maquis member or maybe from someone who knows the truth about his actions in "The Pale Moonlight."
5-The Romulans came out of the war with the least amount of casualties (of the AQ's Big Three) and take advantage of this by being more aggressive, primarily in the GQ. With the Dominion not being protective aggressors any longer (for the time being) the Romulans make some of the first political moves in the GQ and try to plant their flag on as many vulnerable territories and planets that they can find. This brings the Federation and Romuans to the brink of war (shades of USA and Russia post WWII) but in the end war does not take place between the two.
Well a nice topic for season 8 will be the Federation leading a coalition of Alpha Quadrant powers in an offensive action aginst the Dominion, sort of like the 24th century version of the Battle of Zama http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Zama, the series will end with the Dominion being occupied and divided among the Federation and its allies, or at the very least accepting an unconditional surrender and being under allied occupation for a few years like Japan and Germany in World War 2, with its military and civilian leadership tried for war crimes etc, the problem here is how large the Dominion really is on the other side of the Gamma Quadrant.
You read my "25th-century" fanfic stuff, haven't you?
A lot of more geopoltically relevant things need to happen before any Federation civil war can occur, such as the emergence of real or engineered secessionist movements.
However, a failed Section 31 coup attempt is quite plausible, and has the potential to lay the first seeds of the aforementioned civil war (exactly as my fanfic has it
). 
How could that happen? All the Dominion lost was a couple of its fleets in the AQ. I'm guessing most of its forces were still located in the GQ all that time. Also all of its central worlds are unscathed. If another war broke out my money would still be on the Dominion because its still in the best shape and it can still mass produce its soldiers. There is no way the AQ powers would be able to occupy the primamry Dominion territory IMO.
