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If the Federation lost to the Galactic Empire

Imperial starships cross galactic-scale distances in days.
According to what? The movies made no mention of this. The only time the speed of any ship in Star Wars is mentioned would be when Solo mentions the Falcon was capable of .5 past light speed. That would make their galaxy quite small.
 
He was an idiot of the worst kind.

No, he's being rewritten as an idiot in your personal fanfic. Not the same thing, unfortunately.

Anakin was fed a pile of steaming BS about some mythical Sith creating life/stopping people from dying

Yes, like most "piles of steaming BS", it was the truth. Up is down, black is white, and all that. Remember, only stupid people believe the truth.

and that the Jedi lied to him.

No such claim was made. It was only said that the Jedi wouldn't tell him about Plagueis. You see, you can't tell someone about things you don't know about. That's simply how the universe works. And when you fail to tell someone about something which you never knew about in the first place, it doesn't mean you're lying about anything.

Then again, what kind of idiot could watch Star Wars and The Empire Strikes Back and end up selling the position that it's stupid to believe a Jedi lied to someone? :guffaw:
 
Anakin--the so-called "hero" of that period--is so simple-minded, he believed every word fed to him.

Which happened to be the truth.

So, it's the "simple-minded" people who believe truth, and it's the "smart" people who believe lies.

Anakin was fed a pile of steaming BS about some mythical Sith creating life/stopping people from dying, and that the Jedi lied to him. Palpatine was telling so bad, only a dead man would not pick up on that, yet thick-as-a-brick Anakin swallowed it all.

He was an idiot of the worst kind.

Lucas only added insult to injury in the set-up of his empire by showing Anakin/young Vader to be so dense.

You seem to be under the impression that the Darth Plagueis story is a lie. It's not. Plagueis was, IIRC, Palpatine's former master, whom he killed. And he did know how to manipulate the midichlorians to create life. The implication here is that that is how Anakin's "immaculate conception" came about.
 
The Federation would obviously prevail in such a conflict. Because the Federation is good, and the Empire is evil.

It's like in Last Action Hero. Both the Federation and the Empire exist in universes where the laws of probability are rigged in the good guys' favour. So doesn't really matter how much firepower the Empire has.
 
Which happened to be the truth.

So, it's the "simple-minded" people who believe truth, and it's the "smart" people who believe lies.

Anakin was fed a pile of steaming BS about some mythical Sith creating life/stopping people from dying, and that the Jedi lied to him. Palpatine was telling so bad, only a dead man would not pick up on that, yet thick-as-a-brick Anakin swallowed it all.

He was an idiot of the worst kind.

Lucas only added insult to injury in the set-up of his empire by showing Anakin/young Vader to be so dense.

You seem to be under the impression that the Darth Plagueis story is a lie. It's not. Plagueis was, IIRC, Palpatine's former master, whom he killed. And he did know how to manipulate the midichlorians to create life. The implication here is that that is how Anakin's "immaculate conception" came about.

How do we know this? The EU? :lol:
 
I can't believe that I've been reading these arguments for almost 37 years. It's like asking if Superman or Captain Marvel would win in a fight.
 
^Captain Marvel has the advantage because Superman is vulnerable to magic (as seen in Kingdom Come).
 
It's like in Last Action Hero. Both the Federation and the Empire exist in universes where the laws of probability are rigged in the good guys' favour. So doesn't really matter how much firepower the Empire has.

I thought about your response last night and that is the most true and amusing answer to this whole question to begin with. You're right. It doesn't matter because logic flies out the window in both Wars and Trek when it comes to how any engagement would end because the laws of probability have been altered in both realities to always favor the good guy.

If we applied this same asinine logic/reality to real life - a single submarine commander and his crew during WWII would have not only defeated the entire German and Japanese navies - they also would have had and elite squad of commandos that would have single handily assassinated Adolf Hitler and by themselves would have ended the War as heroes. ;)
 
If we applied this same asinine logic/reality to real life - a single submarine commander and his crew during WWII would have not only defeated the entire German and Japanese navies - they also would have had and elite squad of commandos that would have single handily assassinated Adolf Hitler and by themselves would have ended the War as heroes. ;)

You forgot the part where it's an American submarine full of Americans. Sort of like how the film U-571 rewrote history to make the story more acceptable to American audiences, while ignoring or changing historical facts.
 
^ majority of movies are works of fiction, saying the movie U-571 isn't completely accurate is like saying the movie 300 isn't
 
I'd love to see a battle on screen. I might have a Federation ship weakened from another cause destroyed by a Star Wars ship--and vice verse, just to keep the arguments going.

I do think the transporter is an ace in the hole. Just beam a jedi's weapon away or what have you--but theat may be countered quickly.

We see better holograms abord the defiant than on SW, so there's that.

I might have a third group with fantastic technology and even larger ships (Terran Trade Authority) with tech that could enhance either of the other two parties.

You have the Empire make in-roads, and the Feds counter in the end.

That would make for a nice movie.

Here's the rub. If made in the early 1980s, a cross-over might have shown Shatner's Kirk as a father figure to Luke, for a nice B story--a surrogate for David.

Now, Pine's Kirk might learn from an older Mark Hamill...
 
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