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If the 23rd century belongs to J.J....

ToddCam

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...does that mean no more VANGUARD, or the finale to Kevin Ryan's trilogy?
 
Both the next Vanguard novel and the third Errand of Fury book are on the schedule. The latter was delayed due to a death in Kevin Ryan's family, but it will be out in, I believe, early 2009. The former is being worked on by The Wardilmore Gestalt Entity even as we speak. Dunno what the pub date is....
 
^ We got pushed back to sometime in early '09, as well. At present, Vanguard 4 exists only as an outline. We hope to complete outline revisions after a sitdown with Marco at some point before the end of the year.
 
Y'know, Corran, 2009 isn't that far away.

When I was eight and I read Arthur C. Clarke's 2010, I thought 2010 was impossibly far away. And I thought I would be ancient in 2010, assumed we lived that long. (Remember, Reagan was President back in 1982; nuclear war was something I actually thought about as a real possibility.)

But now? 2010 is just two years and two months away. And I'm wondering if I get this novel I'm working on sold, could it see print in 2010?

So, no, 2009 isn't "a long way away" at all. It's really just right around the corner. ;)
 
Corran Horrible said:
yikes, 2009 is a long way away.

Just to put things in perspective:

Fans of Phillip Pullman's His Dark Materials trilogy had to wait two years between Northern Lights and The Subtle Knife, and then three years between The Subtle Knife and The Amber Spyglass. And we're still waiting for the prequel, The Book of Dust.

Fans of Stephen King's The Dark Tower cycle had to wait five years between The Gunslinger and The Drawing of the Three, four years between The Drawing of the Three and The Waste Lands, six years between The Waste Lands and Wizard and Glass, six years between Wizard and Glass and Wolves of the Calla, and one year between Wolves of the Calla and Song of Sussanah and The Dark Tower.

Fans of JRR Tolkien's Legendarium had to wait 17 years between The Hobbit and The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring and The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers, and a year between The Two Towers and The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King.

Fans of JK Rowling's Harry Potter cycle had to wait only one year between the publications of the first four books, but then had to wait three years between Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire and Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix, two years between Harry Potter and the Order of the Phonenix and Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince, and two years between Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince and Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows -- a full ten years after Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone was published.

Fans of Marion Zimmer Bradley's and Diana Paxson's Avalon series had to wait four years between The Mists of Avalon and Fall of Atlantis, ten years between Fall of Atlantis and The Forest House, four years between The Forest House and Lady of Avalon, three years between Lady of Avalon and Priestess of Avalon, four years until Ancestors of Avalon, and three years until Ravens of Avalon.

By contrast, fans of Star Trek: Vanguard had to wait one year between Harbinger and Summon the Thunder, and then less than a year between Summon the Thunder and Reap the Whirlwind, with Book Four apparently coming out around two years later. That's a pretty good record.
 
Wow, I didn't realize the Dark Tower books took that much time to come out.
 
i was waiting for that...


The UK Transformers comic did a story called 'Target: 2006' that tied into the animated movie*. to me, 2006 represented the bright shiny future more than Trek did.





*it's worth noting that the animated movie takes place in 2005, but the UK comic writer got an earlier draft which was set in 2006 and was used for the story in question. the UK comic subsequently ran a whole bunch of original stories (non-US) set twenty years hence - 2006, 07, 08, 09 using many of the movie-originated characters including Rodimus Prime, Cyclonus, Scourge, Galvatron and Arcee.
 
Sci said:
Corran Horrible said:
yikes, 2009 is a long way away.

Just to put things in perspective:

Fans of Phillip Pullman's His Dark Materials trilogy had to wait two years between Northern Lights and The Subtle Knife, and then three years between The Subtle Knife and The Amber Spyglass. And we're still waiting for the prequel, The Book of Dust.

Fans of Stephen King's The Dark Tower cycle had to wait five years between The Gunslinger and The Drawing of the Three, four years between The Drawing of the Three and The Waste Lands, six years between The Waste Lands and Wizard and Glass, six years between Wizard and Glass and Wolves of the Calla, and one year between Wolves of the Calla and Song of Sussanah and The Dark Tower.

Fans of JRR Tolkien's Legendarium had to wait 17 years between The Hobbit and The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring and The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers, and a year between The Two Towers and The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King.

Fans of JK Rowling's Harry Potter cycle had to wait only one year between the publications of the first four books, but then had to wait three years between Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire and Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix, two years between Harry Potter and the Order of the Phonenix and Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince, and two years between Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince and Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows -- a full ten years after Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone was published.

Fans of Marion Zimmer Bradley's and Diana Paxson's Avalon series had to wait four years between The Mists of Avalon and Fall of Atlantis, ten years between Fall of Atlantis and The Forest House, four years between The Forest House and Lady of Avalon, three years between Lady of Avalon and Priestess of Avalon, four years until Ancestors of Avalon, and three years until Ravens of Avalon.

By contrast, fans of Star Trek: Vanguard had to wait one year between Harbinger and Summon the Thunder, and then less than a year between Summon the Thunder and Reap the Whirlwind, with Book Four apparently coming out around two years later. That's a pretty good record.

Well, to put what you've written in perspective, the only books out of everything you've listed that I've ever read were the Vanguard titles. Is the thought "others have 'suffered', so why can't you?". :)

I guess I'm just used to SW EU fiction in terms of regularity. I know it's apples and oranges.
 
Corran Horn said:
Sci said:
Corran Horrible said:
yikes, 2009 is a long way away.

Just to put things in perspective:

Fans of Phillip Pullman's His Dark Materials trilogy had to wait two years between Northern Lights and The Subtle Knife, and then three years between The Subtle Knife and The Amber Spyglass. And we're still waiting for the prequel, The Book of Dust.

Fans of Stephen King's The Dark Tower cycle had to wait five years between The Gunslinger and The Drawing of the Three, four years between The Drawing of the Three and The Waste Lands, six years between The Waste Lands and Wizard and Glass, six years between Wizard and Glass and Wolves of the Calla, and one year between Wolves of the Calla and Song of Sussanah and The Dark Tower.

Fans of JRR Tolkien's Legendarium had to wait 17 years between The Hobbit and The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring and The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers, and a year between The Two Towers and The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King.

Fans of JK Rowling's Harry Potter cycle had to wait only one year between the publications of the first four books, but then had to wait three years between Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire and Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix, two years between Harry Potter and the Order of the Phonenix and Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince, and two years between Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince and Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows -- a full ten years after Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone was published.

Fans of Marion Zimmer Bradley's and Diana Paxson's Avalon series had to wait four years between The Mists of Avalon and Fall of Atlantis, ten years between Fall of Atlantis and The Forest House, four years between The Forest House and Lady of Avalon, three years between Lady of Avalon and Priestess of Avalon, four years until Ancestors of Avalon, and three years until Ravens of Avalon.

By contrast, fans of Star Trek: Vanguard had to wait one year between Harbinger and Summon the Thunder, and then less than a year between Summon the Thunder and Reap the Whirlwind, with Book Four apparently coming out around two years later. That's a pretty good record.

Well, to put what you've written in perspective, the only books out of everything you've listed that I've ever read were the Vanguard titles. Is the thought "others have 'suffered', so why can't you?". :)

That's one way to interpret it. ;) Another interpretation would be, "The publishing industry is usually much slower than the Trek and Vanguard lines have been, so shut up and be grateful." ;)
 
Sci said:
That's one way to interpret it...

And another way to interpret is that all those examples point to novel series that were written by one lone author.

Vanguard seems to be a "team effort" between David Mack, Dayton Ward & Kevin Dilmore.
 
od0_ital said:
Sci said:
That's one way to interpret it...

And another way to interpret is that all those examples point to novel series that were written by one lone author.

Actually, the Nouns of Avalon series was started by Marion Zimmer Bradley, then joined by Diana Paxson, and then continued by Paxson after Bradley's death based upon Bradley's notes -- so it's a fairly collaborative series.

And, as others have pointed out, Misters Mack, Ward, and Dilmore all have other literary (and, no doubt, real life) committments, to boot.
 
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