If Star Trek Beyond Is The Last Film Should They Start NuTNG or Recast
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I'm a mere mortal after all
It *is* a distinct timeline, but from Spock Prime's personal order-of-events, it is one continuity. Don't be so linear. Did Q teach you *nothing* in "All Good Things"?
I'm a mere mortal after all
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Considering Hardy seems to think that Trek at least partially contributed to temporarily ruining his life, I wouldn't bet on him being keen to come back.
http://www.trektoday.com/content/2009/10/star-trek-movie-failure-ruinous-for-hardy/
Considering Hardy seems to think that Trek at least partially contributed to temporarily ruining his life, I wouldn't bet on him being keen to come back.
http://www.trektoday.com/content/2009/10/star-trek-movie-failure-ruinous-for-hardy/
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Plenty of people have starred in flops without becoming crack monsters as a consequence!
Autistoid's suggestion is actually pretty interesting - Hardy was controversial at the time of NEM chiefly due to his difference in appearance from Patrick Stewart (basically, Hardy has full lips while Stewart has none), but it was a strong performance in its own right, and bringing him back would be a nice nod to the fans. If Cumberbatch, Bana and Idris Elba can appear in NuTrek, Hardy can't really reject it on the grounds that it's unworthy.
Plenty of people have starred in flops without becoming crack monsters as a consequence!
Autistoid's suggestion is actually pretty interesting - Hardy was controversial at the time of NEM chiefly due to his difference in appearance from Patrick Stewart (basically, Hardy has full lips while Stewart has none), but it was a strong performance in its own right, and bringing him back would be a nice nod to the fans. If Cumberbatch, Bana and Idris Elba can appear in NuTrek, Hardy can't really reject it on the grounds that it's unworthy.
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I didn't say I thought NEM caused his addiction and depression (though if he was already on a slippery slop, then it probably didn't help.) It's just he seems to want to put Trek behind him. What I'm saying is that for personal reasons, he might not want to reprise a role which earned him an assload of scorn from all comers and derailed his career for years. There's nothing wrong with that.
I didn't say I thought NEM caused his addiction and depression (though if he was already on a slippery slop, then it probably didn't help.) It's just he seems to want to put Trek behind him. What I'm saying is that for personal reasons, he might not want to reprise a role which earned him an assload of scorn from all comers and derailed his career for years. There's nothing wrong with that.
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I was talking about with the critics and the infamously loud fans.
But you're kind-of right. The critical reception to all the performances in Nemesis seems to have been mixed. Weirdly, it looks like the critics that liked Stewart'sseemed to hate Hardy, and vice versa. There's everything from 'wooden' to 'powerful'.
I was talking about with the critics and the infamously loud fans.
But you're kind-of right. The critical reception to all the performances in Nemesis seems to have been mixed. Weirdly, it looks like the critics that liked Stewart'sseemed to hate Hardy, and vice versa. There's everything from 'wooden' to 'powerful'.
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I always wondered about a French actor playing Jean Luc Picard but I do believe some people in the UK do have French names due to their close proximity and history.
I always wondered about a French actor playing Jean Luc Picard but I do believe some people in the UK do have French names due to their close proximity and history.
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Patrick Stewart was really angry with the fans when they criticized them and the movie Nemesis and stated he won't be doing any more TNG movies. So if there is any TNG set in the Abrams Universe, iti will have to be with different actors.
Which of course will be younger and edgier and more attractive and oversexed.
Which is not a Trek I want to watch.
I don't want a Star Trek 90219 metro sexual junk.
Patrick Stewart was really angry with the fans when they criticized them and the movie Nemesis and stated he won't be doing any more TNG movies. So if there is any TNG set in the Abrams Universe, iti will have to be with different actors.
Which of course will be younger and edgier and more attractive and oversexed.
Which is not a Trek I want to watch.
I don't want a Star Trek 90219 metro sexual junk.
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90210 hasn't been 'young and edgey' for about 20 years. It wasn't even 'young and edgey' by the end of its run, and the reboot fizzled to death without much mourning. You're average young person would never have even seen it.
A 'hip' or 'modern' Trek might be many things, but it won't be like that.
90210 hasn't been 'young and edgey' for about 20 years. It wasn't even 'young and edgey' by the end of its run, and the reboot fizzled to death without much mourning. You're average young person would never have even seen it.
A 'hip' or 'modern' Trek might be many things, but it won't be like that.
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I really don't understand this resistance to change and why we have to be anchored to old Trek.
I really enjoy Trek and am a huge fan of it, but I don't think i could stand it if it was all the same thing over and over and over and over and over again. For thirty, forty, fifty, sixty, a hundred, two hundred years.
After a while, to avoid burnout, we need a break and some change.
So i say, bring me something new, but keep the philosophy and principles of Trek intact.
I really don't understand this resistance to change and why we have to be anchored to old Trek.
I really enjoy Trek and am a huge fan of it, but I don't think i could stand it if it was all the same thing over and over and over and over and over again. For thirty, forty, fifty, sixty, a hundred, two hundred years.
After a while, to avoid burnout, we need a break and some change.
So i say, bring me something new, but keep the philosophy and principles of Trek intact.
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Then don't call it Star Trek.
Then don't call it Star Trek.
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It has been the same thing for almost 50 years. Changing the ship, the characters, the century and what you call the technology isn't really making it different.
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Star Trek can be very varied. For eg. If not for the name in the title, would you ever guess that 'Far Beyond the Stars' and 'More Trouble, More Tribbles' were parts of the same franchise?
But then again, having such variety does make it difficult to imagine how Trek could venture into something entirely 'new'. What possible genre is there left to cover? The Enterprise crew using fairies to summon Mothra after Godzilla attacks Qo'nos? FSOG it and change the premise from 'serving on a starship' to 'serving on an aircraft carrier'? Really FSOG it and make the plots 'all sex, all the time!'?
Star Trek can be very varied. For eg. If not for the name in the title, would you ever guess that 'Far Beyond the Stars' and 'More Trouble, More Tribbles' were parts of the same franchise?
But then again, having such variety does make it difficult to imagine how Trek could venture into something entirely 'new'. What possible genre is there left to cover? The Enterprise crew using fairies to summon Mothra after Godzilla attacks Qo'nos? FSOG it and change the premise from 'serving on a starship' to 'serving on an aircraft carrier'? Really FSOG it and make the plots 'all sex, all the time!'?
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That just it. You can tell all sorts of stories with in the Star Trek format. You don't have reinvent the wheel to be "different".
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I agree. We get enough of that metro sexual stuff with Abrams Trek. I want the soldier/explorer type Starfleet officer back.
I agree. We get enough of that metro sexual stuff with Abrams Trek. I want the soldier/explorer type Starfleet officer back.
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People are using the word 'Metro,' but I don't think they know what it means.
'Metro' only refers to people's appearance guys (clothes, hair etc). That thing that's lifted near identically from the original show.
People are using the word 'Metro,' but I don't think they know what it means.
'Metro' only refers to people's appearance guys (clothes, hair etc). That thing that's lifted near identically from the original show.
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And I'm not sure what "metro" (in whatever definition) has to do with Abrams Trek.
And I'm not sure what "metro" (in whatever definition) has to do with Abrams Trek.
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