Poll If SNW continues right up until Pike's accident should they remake/recontextualize The Menagerie?

[DarKush]

I would rather they leave The Menagerie alone. But I could see the temptation being too much for them not to overturn it. And they'll use the rationalization/excuse that TOS is over fifty years old, they are writing for today's audience that might not have even seen TOS or were born when it came out, or that this doesn't erase Menagerie from your DVD/Blu-Ray collection, and so forth.

While Pike is the main character on SNW, it's not just his series, IMO. While they can still keep the Menagerie, in which he does get something of a happy ending, we don't know the fates of most of the other characters, so there's lots of room to have multiple happy endings for them.

 

[JRob94]

While I would love to see a remake of the Menagerie, I would want the final episode to be a regular episode and Pike handing the keys over to Kirk and for George Kirk, Sr. (granted I don't think Chris Hemsworth would be easy to get given his stardom.) (and Junior) to appear to see Kirk off on his 5 year mission.

Perhaps in the absence of Chris Hemsworth, they could get Chris Pine to play George Kirk Sr. It would be kind of cool and just the right thing to annoy some people.

 

[Annorax849]

If anything I think they should show Pike post-Menagerie. It doesn't have to be some crazy adventure or anything. Maybe something on Talos where we see him finally at peace, after all stress he's been under for the past decade. It could be a reversal of the finale to Babylon 5, where his closest friends gather to celebrate his continued life. But I'd be happy if he just had a final conversation with Spock after all the sacrifices they pulled for one another.

While I know there's no indication they can extend life, I also wonder if they could show him still on Talos in the 24th/25th century. Or the 32nd...

 

[C.E. Evans]

I think the series should just end with Pike relinquishing command of the Enterprise to Kirk and both men embracing their respective destinies...

 

[Nerys Myk]

In the last episode Spock goes to Talos to pick up the crippled Pike and take him to the Majalan planet where he is reunited with his other girlfriend and also where they have great doctors and can fix him.

That other girl friend is a piece of work and they didn't part on the best of terms.

 

[Turtletrekker]

No, but I wouldn't mind if they took the story beyond The Menagerie. Not to change anything we know, but add to the story.

 

[Ssosmcin]

Either they will remake the Menagerie or they won't. Fans will love and hate it. There will be dozens of reasons why it sucks and dozens of people defending it.

Whether or not it happens, I just know the producers are not beyond remaking it and even changing it.

 

[Noname Given]

Either they will remake the Menagerie or they won't. Fans will love and hate it. There will be dozens of reasons why it sucks and dozens of people defending it.

Whether or not it happens, I just know the producers are not beyond remaking it and even changing it.

I can see the producers maybe doing an episode of SNW that takes place after the events depicted in TOS S1 The Menagerie Part 2, but I don't see them wholesale remaking the two episodes.


I mean honestly The Quality of Mercy wasn't a shot for shot remake of TOS S1 Balance of Terror, it was an alternate timeline version that had some similarities in certain events that occurred, but it also had a number of different events occur; and the actual outcome of the incident was completely different from the original Balance of Terror episode.

And given the overall 4424 positive outcome of the TOS two-part The Menagerie episode, there's no reason to remake it, or even explore an alternate outcome because per future Pike, any real change in Pike's timeline results in a bad outcome for Mr. Spock

 

[DaveyNY]

No, They should skip over the actual incident and instead show us how in the future Una & Spock figure out a way to restore Pike to some normalcy without Talosian mind foolery.

 

[KirkusOveractus]

No, They should skip over the actual incident and instead show us how in the future Una & Spock figure out a way to restore Pike to some normalcy without Talosian mind foolery.

At what point in the future, like maybe after TOS? How would they be able to go to Talos IV given the regulations against it?

 

[DaveyNY]

At what point in the future, like maybe after TOS? How would they be able to go to Talos IV given the regulations against it?

Same way they got Wheelchair Pike back on Talos to begin with, against regulations.
Obviously, neither Una nor Spock are above disregarding regulations when it comes to Pikes wellbeing.

 

[Ghel]

At what point in the future, like maybe after TOS? How would they be able to go to Talos IV given the regulations against it?

If the TOS episodes were to stay the same (and I hope those would be left alone), I could see a rescue mission by Number One. She is already in a legal grey area as far as Starfleet is concerned.

It really depends upon how the powers that be wanted to play it. Section 31; Number One resigns from a Starfleet that considers her very genetic code illegal and after finding some "cure" for Pike, takes him off the planet as a civilian, or even some form of rogue mission Ex. Kirk with the Genesis planet "Starfleet said no; therefore, I am going anyway."

If the show lasted that long, Menagerie part 3 could be interesting. Not only finding a way to help rescue and "heal" Pike, but also find a way to help the Talosians to perhaps survive and become either incorporated into or at least less feared by the Federation (Especially since given all of the "gods" they meet like Q, Gary Mitchell, and Trelane, they probably shouldn't be THAT afraid of the Talosians...)

 

[Kor]

No, I wouldn't want them to do some kind of new version of The Menagerie.

But maybe some kind of epilogue with Pike on Talos IV, being visited by somebody or something bringing a real cure for him and Vina.

Edit: oops, the idea has already been mentioned above.

Kor

 

[Captain Dove]

I've voted yes, but I think I should have voted maybe. They'd have to do something very interesting with it. It would have to be very cleverly done.

 

[mattman8907]

I wouldn't mind if they did the Menagerie as a direct to streaming movie. like a 90 minute film to wrap Pike's story and let the finale be an actual end to the series and show Kirk off on his own FYM. Like the movie could start off with Pike's accident, jump forward to Six months later and wham the events of the menagerie plus we get to also see a reimagining of the Cage too via flashbacks.

 

[dinzy]

I like the idea because we'd get to see it from Pike's side. Show the accident, show Pike and Spock's communications and the reunion with Vina. Maybe this could be done in a 20 minute prologue.

 

[F. King Daniel]

We don't know what Pike's life is like after "Menagerie". He's off to live in a fantasy illusion world, but to what end? I suspect the last episode will shed light and show Pike that beepy wheelchair life isn't as horrifying as he first believed. Disco/SNW have been accused of ableism regarding the beepy chair, and I can only think of this arc ending with something addressing that.

 

[DEWLine]

And to that end of addressing the ableist currents of Parts 1 and 2, a "Menagerie Part 3" would be useful.

 

[McCoy's Disco Collar]

I would rather they leave The Menagerie alone. But I could see the temptation being too much for them not to overturn it. And they'll use the rationalization/excuse that TOS is over fifty years old, they are writing for today's audience that might not have even seen TOS or were born when it came out, or that this doesn't erase Menagerie from your DVD/Blu-Ray collection, and so forth.

I mean, that's pretty much the basic premise of entire series.

I'm not criticizing them for that, mind you, it's a totally legitimate approach to any prequel/remake/whatever. And it's definitely the choice they've made.

 

[Dukhat]

This is exactly why I can't stand all this 'trying to link to TOS' crap. I see no point in 'remaking' TOS with SNW episodes. Just do something original. At this point it really doesn't matter if Pike ends up in the accident or not. CBS 23rd century Trek is now so far removed from TOS that it's a joke.