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If charcters from the old universe show up...

Yevetha said:
What should they do and who should play them?

Adam Beach should play Chakotay as a commander of a Starfleet scoutship.

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Janeway should return as someone arrived from the Mirror Universe hell bent carving out her own kingdom in the Delta Q with a different crew and Voyager. played by Kate Mulgrew.

Ron PERLMAN should be the Abramverse General Martok fighting for the destruction of Klingon nobility and all privileges given by birth in a rebellion inside the Klingon Empire.

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Q should be played by Peter Dinklage. He should be some sort disbled Q who does have some jedi-like powers but is not omnipotent like the De Lancie Q.

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Counselor Troi should be played by Natalie Dormer and she should have the same role she had in TNG.

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Yevetha, I've explained to you on more than one occasion that images you post inline need to be hosted on your own account, and I believe that it's also been spelled out by one of the other moderators. The first image above is on the account which you said belonged to you, but the rest are from three additional accounts bearing different names. This is not in accordance with TrekBBS policy concerning posting of images, I'm pretty sure it violates deviantART's Terms of Service as well, and it'll get you a warning here. Comments about this to PM.

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Other suggestions?
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My suggestion would be to get an image-hosting account with your name on it. (Photobucket and other services have such accounts for free.) Put your images there and link to them when you want to post the pictures here.

Also, don't requote your own image-laden post complete, solely in order to add "Other suggestions?"

It's really not good form.
 
Jackson_Roykirk said:
Not unless, like me, you consider ST2009 to have simply been a reboot, and then roll with that idea.
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And that's kind of tough to do since they wanted to straddle that line where it is and isn't a reboot. If it were a straight up reboot, then it would be easier, but it also might hold my interest a bit less.

Even if you don't consider it a reboot, using your argument the writers of "Mirror Mirror" didn't care, because so many main characters coincidentally came together there, also. Plus it was quite a coincidence that the both the "evil" and the "good" Enterprise were visiting the Halkens.
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Yes, I've often thought about this, although more as it pertains to DS9's continuation of it. I think "Mirror, Mirror" can be given a little leeway, because even if those are really remarkable circumstances, if there exists infinite universes, one of them is bound to be like this, no matter how unlikely it may seem. The problem then becomes if that universe should continue like it does in DS9. Maybe "Crossover" can be given the same leeway, but the continual visits thereafter imply that no determinism actually exists, and that characters are just magically picked. I never cared for that. I always more preferred episodes of TNG that leaned more towards determinism than fate.

Any continuation from JJ's universe that had all the same characters from any of the later series would be pretty contrived in the same way that the mirror episodes became. This is probably why that universe can't really last too far into the future without being altered again or rebooted.
 
The Wormhole said:
So, now we're speculating on the 24th century of the Abramsverse?
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For a TV series, that seems like the way to go.

But I'd be very judicious about recasting characters from any of the other series. In fact, why do it at all? The TOS characters are the iconic ones where recasting makes the most sense.

I'd rather just see them start totally fresh with new characters. And why even jump to the 24th C right away? Hang around the 23rd, it's fun. :)
 
Ryan8bit said:
In this universe, pretty much all of the characters of the next gen should not exist.
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Not necessarily. On a case-by-case basis it's impossible to know either way at this point.
 
Ryan8bit said:
Jackson_Roykirk said:
Not unless, like me, you consider ST2009 to have simply been a reboot, and then roll with that idea.
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And that's kind of tough to do since they wanted to straddle that line where it is and isn't a reboot. If it were a straight up reboot, then it would be easier, but it also might hold my interest a bit less.
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I don't care how wishy-washy Abrams and Co. are about calling ST09 a reboot. If I want to believe it was a reboot, then I can believe that it was a reboot. I can think of ST09 as a movie told me the story about this particular Kirk, Spock, Bones, Scotty, et al -- and there is no reason to believe that in this particular reboot that a rebooted version of the TNG crew can't also exist.

I suppose I'm not taking this "alternate universe caused by Nero" stuff as literally as others are. I simply saw ST09 as a movie that had a different take on the TOS crew as we knew before...

...and I don't personally need a contrived "Nero caused an alternate universe" explanation to account for that different take -- because it's just a movie.

To clarify, I'm not advocating including the TNG crew. In fact I would rather them NOT rub shoulders with this TOS crew . I'm just saying there is no reason to believe that Picard, Riker, Data, et al won't also someday exist in Abrams universe. The reason I would not want the TNG characters in this film has nothing to do with me feeling it would be an in-universe contrivance, but rather it would be a film making contrivance.
 
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Jackson_Roykirk said:
I suppose I'm not taking this "alternate universe caused by Nero" stuff as literally as others are. I simply saw ST09 as a movie that had a different take on the TOS crew as we knew before...
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Except that it includes the Spock that we're all supposed to know from the 24th century. Everything that happens in the movie happens because of the time travel. Everything revolves around that interference by Nero and Spock. At the very least they imply some sort of causal relationship, even if it is very weak and takes a backseat to contrivances to move the story along. I think there's a certain level of that which viewers will always have to accept, but having anything more to do with TNG as we know it would surpass that level.
 
Because all contrivances have a ceiling that people are willing to accept. More characters from TNG in this universe are just bound to make eyes roll and turn people off. At this point, it will stay focused on this new cast, and shows like TNG, DS9, and VOY will only ever be a memory. Once this series of movies is done, I highly doubt they'll venture on to 100 years later in that timeline for any future productions.
 
Not by a long shot. Having a new Kirk is risky sure but somethings can be taken too far. Having 24th century characters just popping up all over the place is too contrived. Having 24th century Spock in the movie was essential to the reboot setting. To have other 24th century people popping up is unnecessary. Let the new universe characters stand in the spotlight without distracting 24 century cameos.
 
If there were an appropriate place for it, I could see a non-intrusive cameo like Michael Dorn's in TUC. The un-named Klingon defense attorney could've been played by anyone, but it was Dorn. Nothing was said about it on screen, but with a nod-and-a-wink from the producers about the casting, fans were left to conclude this character was one of Worf's ancestors. It didn't affect the story one bit, and it was so subtle it went completely by non-Trek fans. Of course, TNG was in it's hay-day, then. A lot of people probably did get the connection. Without any other Trek around now, such a thing would be a complete insider Easter egg to the older fans.
 
A cameo by a main actor from one of the series is fine (as long as it's a cameo). Much LESS fine would be either A) that actor reprising his character or B) the character, rather than the actor, being featured (in other words, Alexander Siddig, say, in a cameo is fine, a re-cast Julian Bashir with any significance to the story is, well, not fine--Siddig is merely an example, not a "wish for" as I'd rather there be nothing relating to 24th century "prime universe" Trek in the new film).
 
What about a young Dr. Noonian Soong, working with the Enterprise crew for a story, played by Michael Emerson (Ben Linus from LOST) ?

Maybe even work in Harry Mudd and the origin of the Planet Mudd androids ? Eh?
 
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^ Data's head may have been deleted from the timeline. (Yeah, I know he considered it an inevitability.) Just one of the ripples caused by that magic black hole in Star Trek '09.
 
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