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Spoilers IDW Star Trek - New Visions - John Byrne

Is it actually spelled "Memorium" in the comic, rather than "Memoriam"? Everyone seems to be spelling it that way.
 
^Why do you need another great artist? You've already got John Byrne!

That was my exact thought when I first read that comment! :)

I just wish he'd go back to drawing them. The photomontage was an interesting experiment, but from what I've seen, it's not an improvement on Byrne's normal art style.
I have to reluctantly agree with this.

Indeed. However, sadly, Byrne has said that he's losing interest in producing illustrated comic book art and feels that photo-art is his new creative outlet.

That seems a bit unfortunate from my perspective, but I'm glad he's getting to branch out into a new medium that he apparently enjoys.

I've loved Byrne's artwork for decades now and have really enjoyed his Trek work for IDW. He carved his own unique corner of Star Trek comics and appears to be continuing his Byrne-verse (hey, if Shatner can have the Shatnerverse novels...) continuity with the latest New Visions volume featuring Commodore Number One. But this story would have been miles better if only he'd drawn the comic instead.
I haven't read the issue yet, but I've seen the preview on The Trek Collective, and, uh, yeah. Unfortunately, each issue seems to slip a little bit more in quality. I wonder if the quality would improve if he didn't need to release a new issue every other month?
 
I love the stories for the most part, but I feel the issues would be much better served without the gimmick of photoshop. Just get a photo-real painter or another great artist to tell the stories. The photoshop of new places, aliens or altered crew members, like the original Number One in the latest issue, just distract from the good storytelling.

For me, this would kill a lot of the fun of the series. I enjoy seeing Byrne's creative solutions using the limitations of this format. Seeing it drawn or painted would make it into just another Star Trek comic.

And a big reason that Byrne's chosen to do the series this way is that (by his own admission) he's not good with likenesses. A lot of the likenesses in his previous Trek comics were achieved by using an art-o-graph from stills. That's why he largely did stories not involving the regular crew of the Enterprise, like the Romulan Empire mini-series, the Gary Seven mini, the Number One mini, and Leonard McCoy: Frontier Doctor.
 
I love the stories for the most part, but I feel the issues would be much better served without the gimmick of photoshop. Just get a photo-real painter or another great artist to tell the stories. The photoshop of new places, aliens or altered crew members, like the original Number One in the latest issue, just distract from the good storytelling.

For me, this would kill a lot of the fun of the series. I enjoy seeing Byrne's creative solutions using the limitations of this format. Seeing it drawn or painted would make it into just another Star Trek comic.

And a big reason that Byrne's chosen to do the series this way is that (by his own admission) he's not good with likenesses. A lot of the likenesses in his previous Trek comics were achieved by using an art-o-graph from stills. That's why he largely did stories not involving the regular crew of the Enterprise, like the Romulan Empire mini-series, the Gary Seven mini, the Number One mini, and Leonard McCoy: Frontier Doctor.

I get why he is doing it, I am just finding it distracting from his stellar storytelling.
 
Woah, I don't know what I did, but the entire layout for the site just changed for me between posts.
EDIT: Ok, now it's back to normal. That was very weird.
 
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Woah, I don't know what I did, but the entire layout for the site just changed for me between posts.
EDIT: Ok, now it's back to normal. That was very weird.

I've seen that happen a couple of times lately. Was the whole site suddenly in a different typeface?

I picked up #5, "A Scent of Ghosts" a couple of weeks ago, and I thought it was all right but not wonderful. It's always nice to see Pike and his crew, but I didn't think the story was about much of anything outside of the plot. And Trek (especially TOS Trek) is at its best when it has a bit of subtext, as far as I'm concerned. A less-than-successful issue, in my mind.

However, I finally got my hands on a copy of #3, "Cry Vengeance" which follows up "The Doomsday Machine", but isn't quite a sequel. I thought this issue was very well-done and one of Byrne's most successful TOS-style stories. He followed up on the episode nicely without destroying the mystique of the Doomsday Machine itself.

#3's backup story "Robot" was also well-done, with a bit of character development for Mr. Kyle and some nice twists and turns. Byrne also has a knack for designing William Ware Thesis-style costumes for his guest stars!

So far my favorites have been the Gary Mitchell story, the Mirror Universe follow-up, and "Cry, Vengeance." I've been less taken with "A Scent of Ghosts" and "Made of Mudd." Looking forward to the Borg prequel!
 
Looking forward to the Borg prequel!

According to the preview...

the story takes place in the Delta Quadrant. I guess the Voyager crew would have been better off if their ship was a century-old Constitution class instead! :lol:
 
and Leonard McCoy: Frontier Doctor.

I understand Theela the Andorian, from that mini, is about to get the photonovel treatment by Byrne! :techman:

As to why he does them, instead of drawing or painting regular comics, an IDW news bit said, "... these tales are the closest thing to Original Series-era ‘lost episodes’ that the world will ever see."
 
Looking forward to the Borg prequel!

According to the preview...

the story takes place in the Delta Quadrant. I guess the Voyager crew would have been better off if their ship was a century-old Constitution class instead! :lol:

From what I read in the preview, the Enterprise is at the edge of the Delta Quadrant that borders the Alpha Quadrant. The phrases "this distant world" and "out here on the frontier" make it clear that they're on the outer edge of Federation space. The Voyager would've been on the other side of the Delta Quadrant.
 
^Doesn't the Alpha quadrant and the Delta quadrant only technically meet at the center of the galaxy? I thought ships couldn't really hang out there...
 
^Right, Alpha and Delta are catty-cornered to each other, only touching at the center. Delta has a border with Beta and a border with Gamma.

And the outer edge of Federation space is nowhere near the Delta Quadrant, not even in the 24th century, let alone the 23rd.
 
^Right, Alpha and Delta are catty-cornered to each other, only touching at the center. Delta has a border with Beta and a border with Gamma.

And the outer edge of Federation space is nowhere near the Delta Quadrant, not even in the 24th century, let alone the 23rd.

Yet, I think that's accurate to the way the original series treated space. The Enterprise could go from Rigel to Antares like it's nothing, even though they're nowhere close to one another. The Enterprise moves at whatever speed the story requires. If Byrne wants to take Kirk to the Delta Quadrant, that would be in line with that philosophy. :)
 
Except that the original series never mentioned the Delta Quadrant, or the Borg.

But Byrne's always been a little iffy about TNG-era continuity. For instance, his Romulans comics gave the Klingons an emperor in the 23rd century, contradicting "Rightful Heir." I guess you have a point -- he's still basically writing Trek from a TOS-era perspective even when he appropriates ideas from the later shows.
 
Yet, I think that's accurate to the way the original series treated space. The Enterprise could go from Rigel to Antares like it's nothing, even though they're nowhere close to one another. The Enterprise moves at whatever speed the story requires. If Byrne wants to take Kirk to the Delta Quadrant, that would be in line with that philosophy. :)

True enough. IIRC correctly, there were a few instances is TOS and TAS that implied the Enterprise was on the opposite end of the galaxy from Earth. The reference just struck me as funny, is all.

Others have already pointed out the lack of an Alpha-Delta border, so I just wanted to comment on something *completely* OT:


^Right, Alpha and Delta are catty-cornered to each other, only touching at the center. Delta has a border with Beta and a border with Gamma.

I have *never* heard that phrased like that before, but I knew exactly what you meant. Around here we call it "kitty-corner". I wonder if it's a regional difference? Now I'm curious as to the etymology of the phrase. I never really thought it literally had to do with cats, but apparently it does.

Hmm, in just checking dictionary.com, apparently it doesn't really have anything to do with cats. We must have just "corrupted" it over time. It looks like the original term was "cater-cornered":

dictionary.com said:
C16 cater, from dialect cater (adv) diagonally, from obsolete cater (n) four-spot of dice, from Old French quatre four, from Latin quattuor
 
^Right, Alpha and Delta are catty-cornered to each other, only touching at the center. Delta has a border with Beta and a border with Gamma.

And the outer edge of Federation space is nowhere near the Delta Quadrant, not even in the 24th century, let alone the 23rd.

Well, Byrne said that no one had CBS/Paramount had any problems with the issue, so if it's wrong, we can't blame it entirely on him. Maybe they've revised their thoughts on the layout of the quadrants?
 
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