Spoilers IDW Star Trek - New Visions - John Byrne

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  1. Laura Cynthia Chambers

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    Yeah, when more comfortable/familiar, he'd get bolder.

    If you didn't know any better, you'd swear these were fotonovels of lost episodes...
     
  2. JD

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    You guys should probably edit or delete your last few posts. I'm pretty sure they've crossed the line into story idea range, and that's a big no-no here since we have authors on the boards.
    The Kirk autobiography does show that first meeting, but it was a while back from where I am so I can't remember exactly how it played out.
     
  3. David Strickhouser

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    Thanks. Was getting off-topic from NEW VISIONS.
     
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    Is there any difference between "despatched" and "dispatched"?
     
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    I recieved my copy of the Humble Bundle exclusive yesterday. Thankfully it is a 20 page issue, not only 8. It's printed on trade paperback type paper and includes Frontier Doctor: Weeds. I look forward to reading it tonight.
     
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    Par for the course for Byrne, I'm afraid. He only tolerates a certain amount of deviation from his opinion at his Forum.

    I met Byrne at Star Trek: Mission New York in September, and I asked him why he chose to interpret McCoy and Kirk as first meeting on the Enterprise (the Gary Mitchell story "Strange New Worlds" has McCoy say something about getting to know Jim Kirk after he came aboard as Chief Medical Officer), as I thought that TOS had always implied they'd known each other for a while. When I quoted a line from "The Corbomite Maneuver" to justify my argument, Byrne quoted a line from just before or after it to justify his.

    It was a very polite, friendly exchange, but he can be very short with people online.
    In the DC Comics first ST Annual, written by Mike W. Barr, it goes something like this (quoting from memory):

    MCCOY: So, you're the Vulcan, eh? Not supposed to have any emotions. Well, I haven't met the man yet who doesn't feel, if you dig deep enough.
    SPOCK: Indeed, Doctor? Then perhaps you might find your true calling not to be wielding a scalpel, but rather, a shovel.

    In David Goodman's The Autobiography of James T. Kirk, Kirk, Spock, and McCoy all share a long uncomfortable shuttlecraft ride together. As noted above, Kirk and McCoy first meet on the Hotspur, where Kirk and McCoy bond over
    being estranged from their children.
    That's pretty much my headcanon, too. You can even justify it from "The Menagerie," where the dialogue indicates that Pike has met both Kirk and McCoy before ("Captain Pike, you remember these gentlemen..."). It stand to reason that McCoy would have met him at the same time Kirk did -- when Pike was promoted to Fleet Captain and Kirk took over the Enterprise from him.

    BTW, that explanation for McCoy's absence in WNMHGB is almost exactly the same one used in the DC Annual I mention above, only there Joanna is graduating from college instead of medical school.
     
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    Strangers from the Sky also makes Piper's appointment a temporary one, filling in for McCoy. Though in that case McCoy's off having an argument with Joanna.
     
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    OK, let's just all agree that it was Joanna's fault somehow. ;)
     
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    It is kind of interesting that everyone goes in that direction! I guess having a fam is an easy go-to when writing a character out.
     
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    Hmm, I wonder if I can get a leave of absence from my employer, if I tell them I need to go have an argument with someone?
     
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    Heh. The book is kind of vague, and I've simplified it-- but yeah, McCoy has "unfinished business on Starbase 6" and part of it "had included a bitter accusatory comm-pic from his daughter Joanna, who was taking his ex-wife's side of the never-ending argument on alternate weeks." Not sure why he needs time off to argue with his daughter, and why he has to go somewhere else to do it when it's being done over subspace!
     
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    Good memory!
    I do have that issue, but haven't dug it out in a long time.
    With tenuous respect for Mr. Byrne, McCoy was there from the get go.
    In my "reading" copy of NEW VISIONS - "Strange New Worlds", I've "adjusted" that dialog.
    After all, what can JB do to me, it's my copy!
     
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    McCoy is a hands-on doctor (tongue depressor for Crater). It figures he'd want to talk to her face to face. You can't hug somebody over subspace.

    Alternate weeks, huh? Poor Joanna can't make up her mind.
     
  18. JonnyQuest037

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    Thanks. I've reread that issue a lot. Heck, I think I first read it before I've even seen WNMHGB or "The Menagerie", so it was the first place I'd met Captain Pike, Number One, Kelso, and Gary Mitchell!
    Go for it! It's a fun one. :)
     
  19. Avro Arrow

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    If I'm reading correctly, the discussion was still over subspace, it's just that the subspace call originated from Starbase 6, rather than the Enterprise.

    I'm guessing McCoy probably did it that way to avoid some ridiculous roaming charges.
     
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  20. David Strickhouser

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    On the horizon ... February.
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    Kirk's brother and Klingons!
    Obviously, the story must take place before "Operation:Annihilate!"
    Additionally, according to his Forum, JB has plotted out to a possible issue 20.
     
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