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IBM to pit supercomputer against Jeopardy! champs

Samurai8472

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IBM to pit supercomputer against Jeopardy! champs
Mon Apr 27, 2009 2:42PM EDT
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Buzz up!on Yahoo!It's bad enough that I can barely compete with the geniuses that parade through the Jeopardy! set every evening: Now us mortals have to face the possibility of competing against a computer loaded with trivia, as IBM preps a special supercomputer that could take on human contestants on a special edition of the popular game show.

This is the latest step from IBM in pushing computer intelligence into the world of human intelligence. The latest battleground: Quiz show Jeopardy!, where sometimes easy, sometimes obscure, sometimes tricky trivia is asked of three contestants who have to be the first to ring in in order to get a shot to answer -- and always in the form of a question.

Beating humans to the buzzer and phrasing the question properly will be the least of the worries of Watson -- as the Jeopardy!-playing supercomputer has been named -- nor will it be having a memory for facts. Rather, Watson's big challenge will be in understanding the questions posed on the show in order to determine exactly what is being asked.

For a simple piece of trivia this might not be so tricky: In a category of "World Capitals" a question of "Canada" leaves little confusion for Watson (or human contestants) on how to respond. But a question like "Meaning 'not working properly,' it may date back to a character in the comic strip 'The Katzenjammer Kids.'"* requires a deep level of abstract thought. Watson may have a list of Katzenjammer Kids character names, but will it be able -- on the fly -- to examine that list and compare it to common slang terms to determine the right response? Will it even understand to do that?

And how will it respond to the wordplay clues in categories like "Before & After" or categories which ask for a response that rhymes?

Watson's engineers say they aren't sure either, but they want to try, the goal is to get computers interacting in "human terms," a challenge which began in earnest when IBM pitted a computer against chess champion Garry Kasparov in the mid-'90s. Human and computer both won various matches in those series (though Kasparov claimed cheating when he lost). Ironically, the Jeopardy! challenge presents a much tougher challenge from an engineering standpoint -- but one in which it would be far more effective to cheat. (Any number of quick wits could do well feeding Watson answers; the number of players who could challenge Kasparov at chess is much smaller.)

Now IBM and Jeopardy!'s producers are looking at ways to actually stage this event, who would play, and what exactly would be on screen during the game. I, for one, vote for a CGI avatar with a deep, Scottish accent.

*Answer: "on the fritz" -- this was an actual Final Jeopardy! question in 2007

It's the Turk!
 
...and then one day they say it got smart. It came up with what its cold circuits and chips proclaimed the final answer:

KILL TREBEK!
 
I want to see Ken Jennings do a "James Kirk" on IBM's wunderkind computer. I really do.

Jennings: "But if the answer is the question and the question is the answer, how is that illogical!"

Watson: "Error! Error! Faulty! Faulty! MUST STERILIZE! STER-I-LIZE!"
 
Remember, Jeopardy is not just about "get an answer, ask a question", it often requires some thinking to understand what the "answer" is and what would be the most appropriate question. A computer would have to have a certain level of understanding of our language in order to provide an appropriate answer. It's not always as simple as looking up the name of someone who painted X painting or the date a country was founded, those are database functions computers have been brilliant at for decades.

^And of course it's not "fair", it's a computer. They're going to keep getting smarter, might as well get used to it. :)
 
^ Yeah and if it’s not fair it’s for the computer if they are not going to translate the questions. For example when you do a Google search you don’t ask Google’s servers for info like you would ask a person you have to simplify the question and then sometimes refine it till you get what you want. I can’t think of any app or computer yet that you can communicate with just like you would a person. I've heard of many attempts (apps that try to fool people it’s a real person etc) but from what I remember it wasn’t quite there yet. So if IBM is trying to do what I think they are trying to do/prove it would be another big step for AI.

I remember Google working on something similar for their search engine. I wonder if they and IBM have been working together or is this something totally different?
 
My instinctive feelings are that getting a machine to interpret the true meaning of a question isn't really accomplished by throwing more power at it. It isn't a job for a supercomputer; it's a job for a run of the mill computer running an advanced algorithm. The focus should be on the software.
 
^ Yeah and if it’s not fair it’s for the computer if they are not going to translate the questions. For example when you do a Google search you don’t ask Google’s servers for info like you would ask a person you have to simplify the question and then sometimes refine it till you get what you want. I can’t think of any app or computer yet that you can communicate with just like you would a person. I've heard of many attempts (apps that try to fool people it’s a real person etc) but from what I remember it wasn’t quite there yet. So if IBM is trying to do what I think they are trying to do/prove it would be another big step for AI.

I remember Google working on something similar for their search engine. I wonder if they and IBM have been working together or is this something totally different?


I am afraid computer processing is sequential and therefore it can never attain sentience.It cannot hold more then one thought at a time.The logic gates work one after another,therefore it cannot hold more than one thought at a time.it is sequential.It will always be machine,a fast number cruncher.


Parallel processing in the human brain is what makes us sentient.
 
Is that parallel information what causes sentience, or what we are aware of with sentience? Surely, based on what you're saying, if sentience is possible, then the capacity for it is there already, it just needs information passing through it.

Processors have 32 or 64 bit data busses. That's so much parallel information for a kick off.

And doesn't a processor already have a few hundred million transistors, which are changing state concurrently? How much more parallel information do you want? :p
 
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^ Yeah and if it’s not fair it’s for the computer if they are not going to translate the questions. For example when you do a Google search you don’t ask Google’s servers for info like you would ask a person you have to simplify the question and then sometimes refine it till you get what you want. I can’t think of any app or computer yet that you can communicate with just like you would a person. I've heard of many attempts (apps that try to fool people it’s a real person etc) but from what I remember it wasn’t quite there yet. So if IBM is trying to do what I think they are trying to do/prove it would be another big step for AI.

I remember Google working on something similar for their search engine. I wonder if they and IBM have been working together or is this something totally different?


I am afraid computer processing is sequential and therefore it can never attain sentience.It cannot hold more then one thought at a time.The logic gates work one after another,therefore it cannot hold more than one thought at a time.it is sequential.It will always be machine,a fast number cruncher.


Parallel processing in the human brain is what makes us sentient.

Besides what Jadzia said, quantum computing FTW. :rolleyes:

You certainly deserve a prize for being "most absolutely, positively sure about everything". You use words like "never" without considering the fact that technology.... you know.... changes and advances.

Do you mind if I ask where you got your degree in biology? How about computer science? Do you at least subscribe to a periodical or two? Because it seems to me you are positioning some very rough hypotheses some scientists have about how our brains operate as hard fact and theory. No one fully understands what makes us sentient, it's still one of the great scientific mysteries. All we have is a taste of the answer. The ability to "parallel process" (computers have been able to do this for decades now, BTW) certainly ain't the bullseye. :rolleyes:
 
I'm not worried. We scramble and dedicate a great deal of our resources to keep computer running. Those things piss us off and a little neglect is all that's needed to shut them down.
 
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