I wonder if the Denobulans are related to the Talaxians?

[Kristine]

Those species kinda look similar.

 

[NCC-73515]

Or Cardassians, even more similar

 

[Dukhat]

They don’t look similar at all. And they both come from opposite ends of the galaxy to each other.

 

[Kristine]

Maybe I need to look that pictures better. Thank you for noticing.

 

[Orphalesion]

They both produce horrible characters at the very least.

 

[Ragitsu]

They both produce horrible characters at the very least.

Phlox's wife seemed nice.

 

[Orphalesion]

Phlox's wife seemed nice.

I was just talking about Neelix and Doctor Phlox

Plus both their alien make-up is terrible

 

[Ragitsu]

I was just talking about Neelix and Doctor Phlox

Plus both their alien make-up is terrible

It always amused me how Neelix was wearing the cat's pajamas.

 

[publiusr]

Deneb the home star I suppose.

 

[Forbin]

I think it's just that Phlox was designed so soon after Neelix, and sort of filled the same dramatic niche, that he ended up looking and seeming similar.

 

[Orphalesion]

Something I'm wondering...was Neelix popular while Voyager aired? He obviously isn't popular now, but what about back in the 90s?
I do seem to recall stumbling across a dedicated Neelix fansite (albeit a German one) during my early excursions tot he internet as a kid. It had cooking recipes and stuff.

 

[ED-209]

They look more like Cardassians, the similarity ends there of course.

 

[DonIago]

Yes, they're related, but Denobulans got the good sense of humor gene while Talaxians got the bad one.

 

[at Quark's]

More generally: all humanoids look like one another and there seem to be so many of them (and so few other sapient species). But at least they provided an in-universe 'explanation' for that, making them all related.

I see no reason to suppose any closer connection than that. The only commonality I see is that they can be irritating in their garish cheerfulness

 

[MAGolding]

Deneb the home star I suppose.

If Deneb was their home star they would be called Denebians. In fact there are many references to Deneb and Denebians in Star Trek. Deneb has one of the best known star names and so is mentioned a lot in science fiction. Sorting out all the mentions of Denebian planets, peoples, and lifeforms in Star Trek.is qite a problem, equal to making sense of Rigel and Rigelians in Star Trek..

Deneb (/ˈdɛnɛb/) is a first-magnitude star in the constellation of Cygnus, the swan. Deneb is one of the vertices of the asterism known as the Summer Triangle and the "head" of the Northern Cross. It is the brightest star in Cygnus and the 19th brightest star in the night sky, with an average apparent magnitude of +1.25. A blue-white supergiant, Deneb rivals Rigel as the most luminous first-magnitude star. However, its distance, and hence luminosity, is poorly known; its luminosity is somewhere between 55,000 and 196,000 times that of the Sun. Its Bayer designation is α Cygni, which is Latinised to Alpha Cygni, abbreviated to Alpha Cyg or α Cyg.

The distance to Deneb is believed to be about 2,615 plus or minus 215 light years. Or about 2,400 to 2,830 light years.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deneb

Deneb Kaitos is a name given to Beta Ceti or Iota Ceti.

Beta Ceti is 96.3 plus or minus 0.5 light years from earth. And now has the offical proper name Diphda.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beta_Ceti

Iota Ceti (ι Cet, ι Ceti) is the Bayer designation for a star system in the equatorial constellation of Cetus. It has the traditional name Deneb Kaitos Shemali.[9] The name was from the Arabic word ذنب قيطس الشمالي - dhanab qayṭas al-shamālī, meaning the northern tail of the sea monster. it is visible to the naked eye with an apparent visual magnitude of 3.562.[2] Based upon an annual parallax shift of 11.88 mas,[1] it lies around 275 light years from the Sun.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iota_Ceti

Epsilon Aquilae, Latinized from ε Aquilae, is the Bayer designation for a binary star[11] system in the equatorial constellation of Aquila, near the western constellation boundary with Hercules. It has an apparent visual magnitude of 4.02[2] and is visible to the naked eye. Based upon an annual parallax of 23.993 mas,[1] Epsilon Aquilae lies at a distance of approximately 136 light-years (42 parsecs) from Earth, but is drifting closer with a radial velocity of –46 km/s.[4]

It has the traditional name Deneb el Okab /ˈdɛnɛb ɛl ˈoʊkæb/, from an Arabic term ذنب العقاب ðanab al-ʽuqāb "the tail of the eagle", and the Mandarin names Woo /ˈwuː/ and Yuë /ˈjuːeɪ/, derived from and represent the state Wú (吳), an old state was located at the mouth of the Yangtze River, and Yuè (越), an old state in Zhejiang province[12] (together with 19 Capricorni in Twelve States asterism). According to the R.H. Allen's works, it shares names with ζ Aquilae.[13] Epsilon Aquilae is more precisely called Deneb el Okab Borealis, because is situated to the north of Zeta Aquilae, which can therefore be called Deneb el Okab Australis.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epsilon_Aquilae

Zeta Aquilae, or ζ Aquilae, is a binary star[10] system in the equatorial constellation of Aquila. It is readily visible with the naked eye, being of the third magnitude.[2] Based on parallax measurements obtained during the Hipparcos mission, it is approximately 83 light-years (25 parsecs) distant from the Sun.[1] It is a candidate member of the TW Hydrae association of co-moving stars.[12]

Zeta and Epsilon Aquilae together bore the traditional name Deneb el Okab, from an Arabic term ذنب العقاب Dhanab al-ʽuqāb "the tail of the eagle", which they mark (Aquila is Latin for 'eagle').[19] In 2016, the IAU organized a Working Group on Star Names (WGSN)[20] to catalog and standardize proper names for stars. The WGSN decided to attribute proper names to individual stars rather than entire multiple systems.[21] It approved the name Okab for the component Zeta Aquilae A on 1 June 2018 and it is now so included in the List of IAU-approved Star Names.[13]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zeta_Aquilae

Delta Capricorni, or δ Capricorni, is a multiple star system located at a distance of about 39 light-years away in the constellation of Capricornus (the Sea Goat). The primary star in the system is a white giant and the combined light of its members makes it the brightest star in the constellation.

The system bore the traditional names Deneb Algedi, derived from the Arabic ذنب الجدي (ðanab al-jady), meaning "the tail of the goat", referring to the fishlike tail of the celestial sea-goat Capricorn, and Scheddi.[18][19] In 2016, the International Astronomical Union organized a Working Group on Star Names (WGSN)[20] to catalogue and standardize proper names for stars. The WGSN decided to attribute proper names to individual stars rather than entire multiple systems.[21] It approved the name Deneb Algedi for the component Delta Capricornii Aa on February 1, 2017 and it is now so included in the List of IAU-approved Star Names.[15]

And the Denubolans seem more likely to come from the star Denebola.

Denebola is the second-brightest star in the zodiac constellation of Leo.[13] It has the Bayer designation Beta Leonis or β Leonis, which are abbreviated Beta Leo or β Leo. Denebola is an A-type main sequence star with 75% more mass than the Sun and 15 times the Sun's luminosity. Based on parallax measurements from the Hipparcos astrometry satellite, the star is at a distance of 36 light-years (11 parsecs) from the Sun.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denebola

According to Memory Alpha:

Denobula was an inhabited planet in the Denobula Triaxa system, located in the Alpha Quadrant. It was the homeworld of the Denobulans, a warp-capable humanoid species.

https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Denobula

This indicates that there is no connection between Denebola and Denobula beside the similar sounding names.

So natives of Deneb, Alpha Cygni, could be called by their native names or endonyms, or called Denebians, or Alpha Cygnians.

Natives of Beta Ceti could be called by their endonyms, or called Beta Cetians, or called Deneb Kaitans, or Diphdans.

Natives of Iota Ceti could be called by their endonyms or Iota Cetians, or Denebians, or Deneb Kaitians, or Deneb Kaitos Shemalians.

Natives of Epsilon Aquilae could be called by their endonyms, or called Epsilon Aquilians, or called Deneb el Okabians, or Deneb el Okab Borealians..

Natives of Zeta Aquilae could be called by their endonyms, or called Zeta Aquilians, or called Okabians, or Denebians, or Deneb el Okabians, or Deneb el Okab Australians.

Natives of Delta Captricorni could be called by their endonyms, or called Delta Captriconians, or called Denebians, or Deneb Algedians, or maybe Algedians..

Natives of Denebola, Beta Leonis, could be called by their endonyms, or called Beta Leonians, or called Denebolans.

In real life, you would want to be polite to aliens and use their endonyms for their planet, star, or species - if easy to pronounce - to name them,

If they don't have pronouncable endonyms, it makes sense to call natives of Alpha Cygni Alpha Cygnans or Denebians, natives of Beta Ceti Beta Cetians or Diphdans, natives of Iota Ceti Iota Cetians or Deneb Kaitos Shemalians, natives of Epsilon Aquilae Epsilon Aquilians or Deneb el Okab Borealians, natives of Zeta Aquiliae Zeta Aquilians or Okabians, nativesof Delta Captricorni Delta Capricornians or Deneb Algedians or Algedians, and natives of Beta Leonis Beta Leonians or Denebolans.

And since Memory Alpha says that Denobulans come from the planet Denobula in the star system Denebola Triaxa, They probably aren't natives of any of the stars mentioned above..

 

[cooleddie74]

 

[Hugo Rune]

Someone probably should switch him off, and on again

 

[NCC-73515]

...or just off

 

[1001001]

If Deneb was their home star they would be called Denebians. In fact there are many references to Deneb and Denebians in Star Trek. Deneb has one of the best known star names and so is mentioned a lot in science fiction. Sorting out all the mentions of Denebian planets, peoples, and lifeforms in Star Trek.is qite a problem, equal to making sense of Rigel and Rigelians in Star Trek..



The distance to Deneb is believed to be about 2,615 plus or minus 215 light years. Or about 2,400 to 2,830 light years.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deneb

Deneb Kaitos is a name given to Beta Ceti or Iota Ceti.

Beta Ceti is 96.3 plus or minus 0.5 light years from earth. And now has the offical proper name Diphda.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beta_Ceti



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iota_Ceti





https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epsilon_Aquilae





https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zeta_Aquilae





And the Denubolans seem more likely to come from the star Denebola.





According to Memory Alpha:



https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Denobula

This indicates that there is no connection between Denebola and Denobula beside the similar sounding names.

So natives of Deneb, Alpha Cygni, could be called by their native names or endonyms, or called Denebians, or Alpha Cygnians.

Natives of Beta Ceti could be called by their endonyms, or called Beta Cetians, or called Deneb Kaitans, or Diphdans.

Natives of Iota Ceti could be called by their endonyms or Iota Cetians, or Denebians, or Deneb Kaitians, or Deneb Kaitos Shemalians.

Natives of Epsilon Aquilae could be called by their endonyms, or called Epsilon Aquilians, or called Deneb el Okabians, or Deneb el Okab Borealians..

Natives of Zeta Aquilae could be called by their endonyms, or called Zeta Aquilians, or called Okabians, or Denebians, or Deneb el Okabians, or Deneb el Okab Australians.

Natives of Delta Captricorni could be called by their endonyms, or called Delta Captriconians, or called Denebians, or Deneb Algedians, or maybe Algedians..

Natives of Denebola, Beta Leonis, could be called by their endonyms, or called Beta Leonians, or called Denebolans.

In real life, you would want to be polite to aliens and use their endonyms for their planet, star, or species - if easy to pronounce - to name them,

If they don't have pronouncable endonyms, it makes sense to call natives of Alpha Cygni Alpha Cygnans or Denebians, natives of Beta Ceti Beta Cetians or Diphdans, natives of Iota Ceti Iota Cetians or Deneb Kaitos Shemalians, natives of Epsilon Aquilae Epsilon Aquilians or Deneb el Okab Borealians, natives of Zeta Aquiliae Zeta Aquilians or Okabians, nativesof Delta Captricorni Delta Capricornians or Deneb Algedians or Algedians, and natives of Beta Leonis Beta Leonians or Denebolans.

And since Memory Alpha says that Denobulans come from the planet Denobula in the star system Denebola Triaxa, They probably aren't natives of any of the stars mentioned above..

Okay, that’s quite enough of this.

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