I wish TOS had...

[Tenacity]

I remember Gene once suggested that the Enterprise carried a platoon of Starfleet Marines.

There's already a Starfleet Security division, so the Starmarine Corp as a counter-part to Starfleet.

Then we can have a homo-erotic fist fight between the security commander and the Starmarine commander similar to the one during Enterprise between Security and the MACO..

I wonder what uniform color they would wear. Black, maybe?

Khaki?

 

[Spock's Barber]

I wonder what uniform color they would wear. Black, maybe?

Starfield camouflage.

 

[johnnybear]

It only would have worked if Kirk wore a bib to sop up all his drooling.

I'm sure that Kirk would have shown embarrassment towards her at every glance to be honest my Lord!
JB

 

[johnnybear]

I wish that TOS had done more stories involving Romulans.

Yes it's weird that the main enemy of the first season and after the Klingons the best known baddie in Trek only appeared in two episodes of the original show! The Deadly Years was just shots from Balance of Terror!
JB

 

[J.T.B.]

It would've been fun to see a security chief as a recurring guest star. Either Chief Giotto from "Devil in the Dark" or a perhaps a female officer for variety's sake.

"Devil in the Dark" was interesting because security was assembled in a larger unit under Giotto, like an old school navy cruiser's marine detachment formed as a landing force. Kirk even called them "the security troops." It might have been cool to see a larger force in action, like in "Arena" maybe. But it might also have been disappointing.

Here is an example of something that could work. This is based very much on Matt Jefferies' original concept for the Enterprise shuttlecraft. He made somewhat detailed drawings of this, but it never went beyond the conceptual stage given they determined it would be too expensive to build such a complex fullsize exterior mockup. However, this design could have been repurposed as a different kind of Starfleet or Federation or even alien ship where only a filming miniature would have been required.

Here I repurposed it as a larger (than originally envisioned) runabout or scout type craft for far-flung starbases and Federation outposts. But my point is that MJ did quite a few conceptual sketches and drawings of things he never used that could be fleshed out in a manner consistenet with what is already familar in TOS if one really wanted to explore other possible TOS era designs.

I love that design. It would be great as an admiral's barge. Where is the hatchway?

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

There's already a Starfleet Security division, so the Starmarine Corp as a counter-part to Starfleet.

Starfleet Security is responsible for security on starbases and starships, true. But there's no indication they have anything to do with actual wartime combat.

And in TOS' "Tomorrow Is Yesterday", Kirk says that Starfleet is "a combined service". So there wouldn't be a separate ground-based service which competes with Starfleet; it makes much more sense that Starfleet would have its OWN Marines. They may have a different rank structure and uniform color, but they are still Starfleet.

It would certainly explain the existence of COLONEL West in ST VI. And, IIRC, the personnel accompanying Kirk and crew to Paradise City in ST V were intended to be Starfleet Marines.

 

[Warped9]

I love that design. It would be great as an admiral's barge. Where is the hatchway?

It’s underneath and extends like a gangway as I planned this as a two deck craft.

 

[Mres_was_framed!]

The integrated shuttlebay was my idea.

I think it ties in well to the Freedom Class from TNG, even the same limitations if a battle of a similar sort had been seen in TOS.

"Devil in the Dark" was interesting because security was assembled in a larger unit under Giotto, like an old school navy cruiser's marine detachment formed as a landing force. Kirk even called them "the security troops."

Starfleet Security is responsible for security on starbases and starships, true. But there's no indication they have anything to do with actual wartime combat.

And in TOS' "Tomorrow Is Yesterday", Kirk says that Starfleet is "a combined service". So there wouldn't be a separate ground-based service which competes with Starfleet; it makes much more sense that Starfleet would have its OWN Marines. They may have a different rank structure and uniform color, but they are still Starfleet.

It would certainly explain the existence of COLONEL West in ST VI. And, IIRC, the personnel accompanying Kirk and crew to Paradise City in ST V were intended to be Starfleet Marines.

I think this kind of logic is used for Colonel Kira in DS9. Sure, she had been a Major in the Bajoran forces, but she wore a Starfleet uniform and Captain's rank, having never been the Captain of a ship. This might be the situation for Commodore Stocker from "The Deadly Years," who never had been the Captain of a ship. Perhaps Starfleet uses that rank when the officer has not commanded a ship, but still commands a unit of that approximate size.

On that note, I have lately been formulating the theory (and have thought about a separate thread for this), that Starfleet, as a "combined service" actually uses the different shirt colors to show what branch a person serves in, rather than specifically what job they perform. For example, blue might be a civilian science service akin to NASA, while Gold might be an actual military unit that oversees ship activities.
There would then be some redundancy such as we see in TOS, with the redshirt's contributing Engineers, Security Personell, and even Historian; Blue offering Scientists, Medical and even another Historian who specializes. in Anthropology, Personnel and Tacticians; but yet the actual Gunners wear Gold, as do Helmsmen and Navigators. It would even explain why there are redshirt captains in the other series. With the addition colors used in the pilots and TMP, there would be Gold, Khaki, Red, Blue, Brown, and White. Not an unreasonable numbers of services, since the U.S. presently has 6 branches.

 

[Lance]

More episodes with Romulans, definitely.

 

[RandyS]

I remember Gene once suggested that the Enterprise carried a platoon of Starfleet Marines.

I wish we'd gotten to see them.

I wonder what uniform color they would wear. Black, maybe?

We did. 37 years later and 110 years earlier.

 

[JonnyQuest037]

Nice. Or Garrovick, too. He could have recurred in S3.

I guess. I never really found Garrovick particularly interesting outside of Kirk's mentor relationship with him, though.

That also sounds like the plot of the Star Trek script that one of the Mad Men characters (Paul?) was pitching. He had Peggy and Stan (I think) read the script and they agreed it was awful. Funny.

I suppose one of the Mad Men writers was a Trek fan who was aware of that aborted story.

 

[johnnybear]

We did. 37 years later and 110 years earlier.

Sorry, that was an aberration in the time stream caused by a Temporal conflict in the future! The sad thing is the actual perpetrators were still unknown at the conclusion!
JB

 

[johnnybear]

I guess. I never really found Garrovick particularly interesting outside of Kirk's mentor relationship with him, though.

I suppose one of the Mad Men writers was a Trek fan who was aware of that aborted story.

Don took his son to a theatre to see Planet of The Apes as well in 1968! A great TV series that even if the ending of Don falling out of the window never happened!
JB

 

[F. King Daniel]

I wish TOS gave us some backstory to the secondary cast. Almost everything we know about Scotty, Sulu, Chekov and Uhura is from old novels or the reboot movies.

 

[Ssosmcin]

1) A better time slot in year 3
2) Gene Roddenberry sticking around
3) Bob Justman promoted
4) D.C. Fontana on staff. Totally fine with Coon still being off the show, he kinda took Trek down a path that was tired and jokey by the end of his tenure. I like Lucas' take on the series, but he wasn't the strongest writer.
5) Another good two-parter
6) And I wish they made a copy of the color print of first pilot and made two-parter out of THAT so we could have the entire thing - voices, pacing and dropped lines - on home video today.

 

[johnnybear]

One more season at least please!!!
JB

 

[JonnyQuest037]

I wish TOS gave us some backstory to the secondary cast. Almost everything we know about Scotty, Sulu, Chekov and Uhura is from old novels or the reboot movies.

And it seems like anytime they tried to give them some extra background in the show, those scenes were first on the chopping block if the episode was running long.

 

[XCV330]

an Orion episode. Had to wait almost 40 years

 

[Phaser Two]

Another: Chekov taking the helm one solitary time. He knew his way around the engineering station (UC, SB), was Spock's primary relief at the library computer station (numerous episodes), and served as a versatile presence on landing parties. I'm pretty sure he could fly the ship. Never happened.

 

[Ssosmcin]

Still, Kirk did give him the conn when he stumbled off to sick bay in "Journey to Babel."