Not only that, there are allot of Theaters that hire people way too stupid to enforce it.
I wish that America has more relax attitude on nudity in films...
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Not only that, there are allot of Theaters that hire people way too stupid to enforce it.
If it was applied equally and done with the proper motivations, I'd have no problem with it.
But most nudity in films is applied in a very sexist manner. You see ALOT more and alot more graphic female nudity than male nudity...and that leads me to believe that the whole 'art' thing is very often just a cover for some guy's own repressed sexual fantasies. Not for anything approaching real art.
I'm okay with nudity in art. REAL art. I've been to Florence twice and plan to go back as often as I can....and the absolute highlight of the entire trip, for me, is to stand in front of David, because it is the most exquisite piece of art in the world, as far as I'm concerned. And I've been to pretty much all of the worlds largest art museums (some several times) and have spent more hours than I can possibly count appreciating some of the greatest pieces of art ever to flow from the hand of man. Pieces of art which make your spirit soar, just to be standing in front of them. Pieces of art which affirm your most positive view of mankind as a potential instrument from which some higher power can bring forth great beauty and good.
But standing in front of David gives me a very different feeling than does watching some so-called 'art' films where I get to see close ups of female genitalia for no good reason other than to satisfy the creator's funkified fantasy life.
That's not art. You can call it whatever you like. But it's not art. And to put it in the same category as David is an insult not only to Michelangelo...but to the entire human race.
Sure, there are art films which might include nudity. But to lament the fact that "America needs to have a more relaxed attitude on nudity in films" suggests something other than the desire to portray the human body as something beautiful and almost supernaturally pure and good - as something to be exhaulted.
The human form is not exhaulted in most films I've ever seen - made inside or outside the US. Instead, it is most often (and especially when it comes to females) objectified and exploited in favor of alot less lofty aims.
Sorry...I'm no fuddy duddy by any means - I grew up in the days before AIDS: Take what you want from that, but know that when it comes to sex, I've been there, done that, and lost the T-shirt at one point or another in life. But I'm not buying this. Or, at least not completely. I suppose a pure artistic motivation can exist out there for this and maybe you are one of the few who posses it...but I don't think most guys who say something like this are being honest with themselves.
A Michelangelo in the film industry would be an extremely rare find indeed. And I therefore remain extremely skeptical.
Now...as for relaxing the restrictions in the U.S....I don't have a problem with that necessarily. If people want to act out their sexual fantasies on screen, that is their business and I couldn't possibly care less. Knock yourself out, I say.
But they need to at least be honest with themselves about their motivations and the goals of their work. And if the objective in showing nudity is to express anything other than a sincere and pure appreciation of the beauty of the human form, don't put it in the same category as David. Because it's not even close.
But most nudity in films is applied in a very sexist manner. You see ALOT more and alot more graphic female nudity than male nudity...and that leads me to believe that the whole 'art' thing is very often just a cover for some guy's own repressed sexual fantasies. Not for anything approaching real art.
I'm okay with nudity in art. REAL art. I've been to Florence twice and plan to go back as often as I can....and the absolute highlight of the entire trip, for me, is to stand in front of David, because it is the most exquisite piece of art in the world, as far as I'm concerned. And I've been to pretty much all of the worlds largest art museums (some several times) and have spent more hours than I can possibly count appreciating some of the greatest pieces of art ever to flow from the hand of man. Pieces of art which make your spirit soar, just to be standing in front of them. Pieces of art which affirm your most positive view of mankind as a potential instrument from which some higher power can bring forth great beauty and good.
But standing in front of David gives me a very different feeling than does watching some so-called 'art' films where I get to see close ups of female genitalia for no good reason other than to satisfy the creator's funkified fantasy life.
That's not art. You can call it whatever you like. But it's not art. And to put it in the same category as David is an insult not only to Michelangelo...but to the entire human race.
Sure, there are art films which might include nudity. But to lament the fact that "America needs to have a more relaxed attitude on nudity in films" suggests something other than the desire to portray the human body as something beautiful and almost supernaturally pure and good - as something to be exhaulted.
The human form is not exhaulted in most films I've ever seen - made inside or outside the US. Instead, it is most often (and especially when it comes to females) objectified and exploited in favor of alot less lofty aims.
Sorry...I'm no fuddy duddy by any means - I grew up in the days before AIDS: Take what you want from that, but know that when it comes to sex, I've been there, done that, and lost the T-shirt at one point or another in life. But I'm not buying this. Or, at least not completely. I suppose a pure artistic motivation can exist out there for this and maybe you are one of the few who posses it...but I don't think most guys who say something like this are being honest with themselves.
A Michelangelo in the film industry would be an extremely rare find indeed. And I therefore remain extremely skeptical.
Now...as for relaxing the restrictions in the U.S....I don't have a problem with that necessarily. If people want to act out their sexual fantasies on screen, that is their business and I couldn't possibly care less. Knock yourself out, I say.
But they need to at least be honest with themselves about their motivations and the goals of their work. And if the objective in showing nudity is to express anything other than a sincere and pure appreciation of the beauty of the human form, don't put it in the same category as David. Because it's not even close.
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With which I have no problems... Society sets up its laws to function within its own moral values.
Do I wish American was less prudish about sex? Yes. I think a greek classmate of mine said this and its true... If guys could just jerk off to a billboard of a naked chick, and see naked girls anywhere and anytime, they would be less likely to commit sexual crimes.
But, we as Americans have the right to maintain our more puritan values...
As for showing girls boobs to satisfy sexual urges of film makers and the such... Yeah, that may be true, but it still does hold some sexual equality for the baby makin' parts... I don't really agree with it because there really aren't too many vagina scenes out there...
With which I have no problems... Society sets up its laws to function within its own moral values.
Do I wish American was less prudish about sex? Yes. I think a greek classmate of mine said this and its true... If guys could just jerk off to a billboard of a naked chick, and see naked girls anywhere and anytime, they would be less likely to commit sexual crimes.
But, we as Americans have the right to maintain our more puritan values...
As for showing girls boobs to satisfy sexual urges of film makers and the such... Yeah, that may be true, but it still does hold some sexual equality for the baby makin' parts... I don't really agree with it because there really aren't too many vagina scenes out there...
Actually, I DO think that as a nation, we are too uptight about nudity and that maybe we do need to relax some of our so-called 'puritan values'.
My problem here is not with that issue in the slightest, but with this insistence by some of these purveyors of films which exploit the human form (and interestingly, most often the female human form) that what they are doing is 'art'.
THAT is the part that annoys me. You want to do a soft-core porn film? Do one. Knock yourself out. You want to do a film which flashes a few boobs in an effort to get male butts in the seats. Do that too. Great! You want to do a film of your favorite sexual fantasy? Fine. Have at it.
But don't try to make what you are doing sound like something more lofty than it is by calling it 'art'.
Because it's not art. It is exploitation for the purpose of sexual gratification.
Perhaps I am just cynical...but I believe there are ALOT more people out there who are willing to deceive even themselves into believing that what they are doing is 'art' than there are people out there who are really, truly, even CAPABLE of producing real art.
And I'm fine with them where we are at... I believe that at the end of the day, the majority will decide. People now say bitch and other profane words on tv... because society is now ok with it. We now see side boobs everywhere on tv, because society is ok with it... Naked asses (both male and female) are more common place [Thanks to NYPD Blue's Dennis Franz] In time, we will become the liberal bastion that you wish...
Because it sounds nicer. It's called marketing. You can go see something artful, and it's ok to do it socially... but only dirty cheap people do pornographic things in public
Sure...
Ok...
I think that is more for teenagers... I don't really think that men go see movies to see a pair of tits when they can see that and a whole lot more in the privacy of their own home
Ok, but I'm going to need a handful of female costars... Are you available?
Why not? What is "art" in the opinion of one person is pure junk in the opinion of others. All this modern art [Pollock is an example] is pure trash to me... but there are some people that like it.
In your opinion. In my opinion BSG's 8 are better looking than the 6's... Doesn't make me right, does it?
Who is being exploited? The women know what they are doing... they are getting paid to do it.
And I believe that you don't like the "art," which is fine... but I'm sure some people said some negative things when they created a male nude in Italy.
