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I tortured myself and watched all of Caprica on the weekend.

Gingerbread Demon

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Yes I know people, well some people gush over this one but honestly how could you make a show with not one likeable person in the entire cast.

You make Caprica that's how.

It felt like a soap opera with robots and guns.

I just don't know what they were going for here, sure it's their attempt to write the Cylon origin story and those clips on the final episode kind of sealed that deal but the series felt very disjointed and all over the shop. I have not one nice thing to say about anyone on the show and well their actors did their job if that's the feeling I was meant to come away with. Final scene with whatshername rising out of the goo bath, was she a whole flesh and blood Cylon or mechanical with a fleshy coating like terminators? I'm not even sure what they said because I've forgotten most of the dialogue.

So Clarice Willow is the spiritual mother of all Cylons hmmmmmmmm

6/10 and that's just for the production and look.

And the amount of plot armor on some characters like Lacy. Sheesh wanted her dead before the series ended utterly unlikable.

The mafia people that was a pisstake wasn't it? cross between italians and Jews. I found that offensive.
 
I remember liking a lot of the characters on it.
And I think part of the issue with it feeling disjointed to you might be due to the fact that it wasn't originally meant to be about the Cylons, it was originally a completely original movie, but then Universal got RDM and David Eick together with it's creator, and they decided to add the BSG elements and make it a series about the Cylons' origin.
 
I remember liking a lot of the characters on it.
And I think part of the issue with it feeling disjointed to you might be due to the fact that it wasn't originally meant to be about the Cylons, it was originally a completely original movie, but then Universal got RDM and David Eick together with it's creator, and they decided to add the BSG elements and make it a series about the Cylons' origin.

They also did a big conceptual retool during the midseason break ("More shooting, less dancing"), and probably a less drastic one between the pilot and the season proper. If DS9 and BSG are examples of "plot jazz" that worked out, Caprica is the opposite, where it didn't have the kind of strong thematic foundation that would allow it to figure out what it would be as it went along and seem like it always knew.
 
Now that you mention it, I think I do remember noticing a bit tonal shift after the midseason break.
The one thing I remember best, is that overall I actually liked it better than a lot of BSG.
 
I remember liking a lot of the characters on it.
And I think part of the issue with it feeling disjointed to you might be due to the fact that it wasn't originally meant to be about the Cylons, it was originally a completely original movie, but then Universal got RDM and David Eick together with it's creator, and they decided to add the BSG elements and make it a series about the Cylons' origin.

I wondered that one myself. It felt at the start like it was going one way and then there was other story bits that felt they were added on. I would have been fine with this had it just been a drama set in the BSG universe but it is what it is I guess, some of it just felt forced and tacked on.


Also on my DVD set the menus are weird.
Disk 1 says "season 1 disk 2" on the DVD menu Yet the episodes are in the right order
 
I didn't start watching Fear until most of the original cast was dead, but from what I have seen of them, the new cast is better.
 
Sounds like Fear The Walking Dead. Was not one person from the original cast who had their character die that I felt any sadness over before I quit watching the show.

Well this show was made to create feelings with the viewers and for me they were not very good feelings. I wanted lots of people to die horrible deaths and was hoping the cast would change mid way through. My hopes were dashed. Maybe they can use this series as a test to see if you are a Cylon haha.
 
I loved BSG, but couldn’t muscle my way through Craprica. It was awful, and you’re right…none of the characters were even remotely engaging.
 
I kept hoping by episode 3 this was some kind of VR dream and everyone had been shot in the head, especially Clarice
 
I hated the character shift change with Joseph Adama where he went from an innocent man who wanted nothing to do with his mafia links to almost becoming the head of the family between episodes. The second half of the season is far stronger and where season 2 could have gone looked very interesting.
 
I stayed with it the first season but couldn't keep going after that.

It was practically Heroes season 3 level in terms of being all over the place. They made up this virtual game with no apparent point that you can't go back to if you die for some reason and then over-focused on terrorism motivated strictly by a morally absolutist judgment on comfort culture.
 
I've been debating whether to ever try giving NuBSG another shot. I remember when it came out, I was turned off by the pilot because among other problems, some of the writing is just terrible IMO. :rommie: I've heard kind of mixed opinions over the years, with some people saying parts of the overall series are good and other parts just sort of meh. I've also heard at times it's seemed like the writers didn't really have a good road map to follow, and just made up stuff without the proper resolution.
 
I've been debating whether to ever try giving NuBSG another shot. I remember when it came out, I was turned off by the pilot because among other problems, some of the writing is just terrible IMO. :rommie: I've heard kind of mixed opinions over the years, with some people saying parts of the overall series are good and other parts just sort of meh. I've also heard at times it's seemed like the writers didn't really have a good road map to follow, and just made up stuff without the proper resolution.
Are you serious? It's an all-time sci-fi classic. Now that reputation is mostly achieved by season 1 and it completely fell apart after, but still it was much better than anything else on TV.
 
I think Caprica should had been focused on a singular mad scientist type going around the bickering, warring, divided colonies. A sort of proto-expanse, if you will, but instead of some molecule, it's the developing drone and ai tech that leads to the Cylons.
 
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