I think we just need to accept the fact that this is a full reboot.

[Kor]

Non canon and this is the kinda uniform porn he does all the time. He will likely let you know which women are bucking the regs to wear pants and how good each look in whatever uniform they are wearing. Its the one thing in his novels that drive me nuts.

Face it guys, the DSC uniforms are fleet wide and have been for at lest 7 years. They are not gonna switch to Fall casual uniforms.

Considering how often Starfleet has implemented drastic uniform changes, it would make perfect sense for them to ditch the Flash Gordon/Buck Rogers-esque uniforms we see in ST-Disco for solid-color tops with black pants at some point in the near future.

Kor

 

[Noname Given]

Yeah, it renders Janeway's entire 7-season journey a little meaningless in the worst case, doesn't it.

After the assurances we got that this show was faithful to Trek, I must admit I am a little worried. We will only know the full damage after a season or two, but as a worst case scenario, the writers have ignored really obvious issues when they could have come up with an adequate explaination without violating canon, or script. I.E. one of Enterprise's biggest problems.

I guess if that happens, we have to accept that Star Trek is now Doctor Who; some loose anthology.

In TOS - "That Which Survives" the 1701 crossed 997 light years in TWO DAYS. At that rate 70,000 light years would take 141 days (rounding up )<--- VOY's predicament was always 'needs of the plot/premise' driven.

 

[Longinus]

In TOS - "That Which Survives" the 1701 crossed 997 light years in TWO DAYS. At that rate 70,000 light years would take 141 days (rounding up )<--- VOY's predicament was always 'needs of the plot/premise' driven.

That is still quite a bit different. Speed of warp travel has never been consistent in Trek that much is obvious. But this is an engine, which, as stated on screen, can get you anywhere in the universe instantly.

 

[Gonzo]

In TOS - "That Which Survives" the 1701 crossed 997 light years in TWO DAYS. At that rate 70,000 light years would take 141 days (rounding up )<--- VOY's predicament was always 'needs of the plot/premise' driven.

I don't normally worry about issues with time and distance as all of the series have played fast and loose with that.

What struck me about the first two episodes was how many really unforced issues they created with their choices that didn't really seem to serve any worthwhile purpose for the story or characters.

If there is a valid reasons for the changes then that's fine, unfortunately there doesn't appear to be any that I can see.

Perhaps the reasons will become clear as the season continues but I very much doubt it at this point.

 

[Mirror Mirror]

Considering how often Starfleet has implemented drastic uniform changes, it would make perfect sense for them to ditch the Flash Gordon/Buck Rogers-esque uniforms we see in ST-Disco for solid-color tops with black pants at some point in the near future.

Kor

I do not see it, but I do see them moving more toward something inspired by TOS. We know they already made them, and we have been told the colors and such would slowly shift as they show went on. So I totally see new uniforms. What I am saying is those Cage uniforms are not around, this is the Cage uniform. It has been for 7 years and its silly to think they have a sweater wearing crew out there somewhere. This uniform gave a nod to the Cage uniforms, but you are not gonna see the 1960's look.

 

[MadeIndescribable]

In TOS - "That Which Survives" the 1701 crossed 997 light years in TWO DAYS. At that rate 70,000 light years would take 141 days (rounding up )<--- VOY's predicament was always 'needs of the plot/premise' driven.

It's always the difference between Voyager and Final Frontier that springs to my mind...

 

[Mechanoid1]

In TOS - "That Which Survives" the 1701 crossed 997 light years in TWO DAYS. At that rate 70,000 light years would take 141 days (rounding up )<--- VOY's predicament was always 'needs of the plot/premise' driven.

If I'm not mistaken that's the episode where the enterprise went warp 14. They just don't make engineers like Scotty anymore.

 

[ScottJ85]

Honestly, if it is a full reboot, I'm at peace with that. Canon should be treated as a resource for writers to draw from, not a prison that constrains the kinds of stories that can be told.

 

[cooleddie74]

It's always the difference between Voyager and Final Frontier that springs to my mind...

Novelist J.M. Dillard actually explained how the Enterprise-A reached the Great Barrier so quickly in her adaptation of Star Trek V but none of those details actually made it into the film itself. The Sha-Ka-Ree entity had planted information into the minds of Sybok and his followers instructing them how to modify the ship's warp engines to make the journey to the center of the galaxy possible in such a short amount of time. I wish the movie itself had explained the discrepancy because it would have made the laughably ridiculous somewhat less so.

 

[MakeshiftPython]

That is still quite a bit different. Speed of warp travel has never been consistent in Trek that much is obvious. But this is an engine, which, as stated on screen, can get you anywhere in the universe instantly.

I'm pretty sure something will turn up that makes the new traveling method unusable. We've had those Trek stories before with someone making some kind of technological breakthrough only to find out it has a major issue. The Genesis project is one example. Voyager had tons of those stories when it came to finding shortcuts ("hey we can use space folding!" *40 mins later* "nope we can't!")

My bet is that the spore drive not only transports you to other places but other dimensions (hello mirrorverse!) and time, but in a way that's unpredictable and too dangerous to be utilized.

 

[F. King Daniel]

Novelist J.M. Dillard actually explained how the Enterprise-A reached the Great Barrier so quickly in her adaptation of Star Trek V but none of those details actually made it into the film itself. The Sha-Ka-Ree entity had planted information into the minds of Sybok and his followers instructing them how to modify the ship's warp engines to make the journey to the center of the galaxy possible in such a short amount of time. I wish the movie itself had explained the discrepancy because it would have made the laughably ridiculous somewhat less so.

They likely didn't include it because everyone would ask why they never used the technology again.

 

[MakeshiftPython]

Plus, isn't that a novelization? I'm betting the writer just made that up to pick up on the movie's slack.

 

[F. King Daniel]

I'm pretty sure something will turn up that makes the new traveling method unusable. We've had those Trek stories before with someone making some kind of technological breakthrough only to find out it has a major issue. The Genesis project is one example. Voyager had tons of those stories when it came to finding shortcuts ("hey we can use space folding!" *40 mins later* "nope we can't!")

My bet is that the spore drive not only transports you to other places but other dimensions (hello mirrorverse!) and time, but in a way that's unpredictable and too dangerous to be utilized.

Even if it was that dangerous, in Voyager's position they'd try it.

They did the warp ten infinity transwarp salamander drive, for crying out loud.

 

[MakeshiftPython]

Even if it was that dangerous, in Voyager's position they'd try it.

They did the warp ten infinity transwarp salamander drive, for crying out loud.

What is this salamander drive you speak of? Warp ten??? Transwarp??? WHAT IS THIS CRAZY TALK???

 

[cooleddie74]

They likely didn't include it because everyone would ask why they never used the technology again.

Like that ever stopped Trek before or since.

 

[shapeshifter]

The Sha-Ka-Ree entity had planted information into the minds of Sybok and his followers instructing them how to modify the ship's warp engines to make the journey to the center of the galaxy possible in such a short amount of time. I wish the movie itself had explained the discrepancy because it would have made the laughably ridiculous somewhat less so.

In case it isn't obvious, we later found out the Sha-Ka-Ree entity must have been an imprisoned member of the Cytherian species. They did something similar to Barclay in TNG The Nth Degree. Fwiw.

 

[Mirror Mirror]

The warp thing is just another case of Star trek creating a super advanced and useful trek for the plot, then forgetting thy did and never seeing it again

 

[Markonian]

I'm pretty sure something will turn up that makes the new traveling method unusable. We've had those Trek stories before with someone making some kind of technological breakthrough only to find out it has a major issue.

The answer is already clear: the spore drive may be discontinued because it makes the tardigrade suffer. It’s Equinox all over again. The characters just need to realize it. No further reason needed.

 

[Longinus]

The answer is already clear: the spore drive may be discontinued because it makes the tardigrade suffer. It’s Equinox all over again. The characters just need to realize it. No further reason needed.

I'm sure the Klingons, the Romulans, the Dominion and the Borg are also super concerned about the well-being of the space tardigrades and would never use unethical technology like this.

 

[MadeIndescribable]

The answer is already clear: the spore drive may be discontinued because it makes the tardigrade suffer. It’s Equinox all over again. The characters just need to realize it. No further reason needed.

Somehow I doubt it would be that simple so as to be explanable after only four episodes...