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I think we just need to accept the fact that this is a full reboot.

^ Did you really just try to use a 1940s period piece and a medieval Fantasy series as examples of why DSC should look like it was made in 1960?

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I think you meant to say 1960s period piece but yes they should be used as examples. You can make things that are timeless looking no matter what type of visual look you go for. Also I didn't say it should be made like it was made in 1960's only that the 60's look of TOS should be the jumping off point for something that blends that look with something more modern.

I find it interesting that "Game of Thrones" is used a lot in terms of what people were expecting yet nobody complains about how primitive that world is. That's because everything else about it from stories to CGI to how graphic it can be, shows us this is a show created in modern times. The lack of modern looking tech has no impact in making the show look dated.

Jason
 
Tell that to fans of "Mad Men" or "Game of Thrones" who also doesn't look modern seeing as how they aren't driving around in cars and talking on cell phones. "Legion" also seems to be in some sort of world that is kind of a mix of modern and old 60's design. "FIrefly" was part Western. The last few "X-Men" movies have been set in the past and the upcoming "Miss Marvel" movie is going to be in the 90's. If done right any show can be retro but also still have a timeless feel about it. It's all about how the look is done and more importantly what the stories and characters are about.

Jason

Those are period pieces, Star Trek isn't.
 
@Jayson1: Game of Thrones' world is SUPPOSED to be primitive. It's a medieval fantasy world.

DSC is not going to look like it was made in the 1960s, nor should it be 'handcuffed' by trying to slavishly adhere to a 'look' that is full out totally outdated technology and functionality "just because".
 
Star Trek is a fictional story with a several set timeline; one of which is known as the Prime Universe or Prime Timeline. Based on what we've seen, I don't see how even the producers can say Discovery is part of the Prime continuity. At best, it appears to be a 4th timeline.
 
Did you disagree in 1979 and 1987?
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Yes, all of those are Klingons... The Star Trek Discovery Klingons can be Klingons too, but not in the same Universe. Not unless there is a good explanation presented on screen.
 
Yes, all of those are Klingons... The Star Trek Discovery Klingons can be Klingons too, but not in the same Universe. Not unless there is a good explanation presented on screen.

And there are explanations that would work. Klingons that weren't affected by the Augment virus. Klingons that were afflicted with the effects of the virus but had their appearances distorted when scientists and physicians tried to reverse the cosmetic damage. A subgroup of Klingons that represent a minority of the Empire's total population and the membership on the High Council. Look, I'm not a big fan of the new makeup, either, but there are in-universe reasons for this look that can easily fit within the canon of the Prime timeline.

We're just 3 episodes in. David Mack said everything is going to start making sense and our fears are unfounded. Be patient.
 
And there are explanations that would work. Klingons that weren't affected by the Augment virus. Klingons that were afflicted with the effects of the virus but had their appearances distorted when scientists and physicians tried to reverse the cosmetic damage. A subgroup of Klingons that represent a minority of the Empire's total population and the membership on the High Council. Look, I'm not a big fan of the new makeup, either, but there are in-universe reasons for this look that can easily fit within the canon of the Prime timeline.

We're just 3 episodes in. David Mack said everything is going to start making sense and our fears are unfounded. Be patient.
Trying to be patient.
 
And there are explanations that would work. Klingons that weren't affected by the Augment virus. Klingons that were afflicted with the effects of the virus but had their appearances distorted when scientists and physicians tried to reverse the cosmetic damage. A subgroup of Klingons that represent a minority of the Empire's total population and the membership on the High Council. Look, I'm not a big fan of the new makeup, either, but there are in-universe reasons for this look that can easily fit within the canon of the Prime timeline.

We're just 3 episodes in. David Mack said everything is going to start making sense and our fears are unfounded. Be patient.

Personally I think its just a retcon, pure and simple.
 
Those are period pieces, Star Trek isn't.

The prime universe also has different periods as well just like the real world does but that doesn't even matter to the bigger issue and that is a modern and retro can work together. Something that looks like a modern update of "TOS" can have the same cool and wow appeal that a dark and gritty setting can have.

I'm kind of curious as to what you would define as retro because the impression I get is that you think it is nothing more than a note to note recreation of the past in both how sets are made and how a show or film is filmed. Even the dialogue must use old style speech of the era? I mean that can be done but that isn't really what I think most people want except maybe as a diversion like a fan film or maybe even "Orville."

I think people want the look to be just retro enough to buy into the show being in that setting but not so retro that it feels dated and silly looking. People want the perfect blend of modern and "TOS" when it comes to design and "Discovery" doesn't seem to care much about making it feel like a prime universe show in anyway which makes the idea that they want to call it a prime setting all the more puzzling. I still don't see any reason to want to go to a old setting just to discard everything about it. What exactly do they get out of the idea of calling it a Prime universe setting and what do the fans get out of that idea they wouldn't if it was just called a reboot

Jason.
 
@Jayson1: Game of Thrones' world is SUPPOSED to be primitive. It's a medieval fantasy world.

DSC is not going to look like it was made in the 1960s, nor should it be 'handcuffed' by trying to slavishly adhere to a 'look' that is full out totally outdated technology and functionality "just because".

Actually outdated tech is not much of a concern because the show is supose to be about the characters and stories and then you got the fact that modern tech can still be used. In "Captain America" we saw bad guys using laser weapons and in one "X'Men " movie I swear I saw giant robots walking around in the 1970's.

With Imagination you can make Tech cool no matter what so called restrictions you have placed on you but like I have mentioned before nobody wants it to look like it was made in the 60's. That is not the type of retro that people are talking about. Feeling retro does not mean photocoping the past.

Jason
 
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