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I think we just need to accept the fact that this is a full reboot.

To quote the Android from Dark Matter, “Ok.”

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The literalist in me is confused. "Apart" means separate or not together. "A part" means together. I choose the latter in the context of this discussion. However, the ambiguity is amusing. It's a funny word.

Even in business correspondence these days, I see people writing "apart" when they actually mean "a part." These things have opposite meanings. I tried to explain it to a co-worker and just got a blank look.

And then there's "alot"... :brickwall:

Anyway, I take at face value the notion that STD is supposed to take place narratively in a universe that also includes the events of TOS, even though things are depicted differently visually.

But to me, TOS is its own standalone thing, and it doesn't matter what the rest of the Trek shows and movies do, since they're just spinoffs and the original remains unaffected.

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People said all the same things about TNG when it came out, and it's considered one of the best television series ever produced.

I don't understand why fans like yourself get so personally offended by changes to a 50 year old franchise that almost permanently died because it was cannibalising itself. 90's trek killed itself because it had become boring, predictable and exhausted from Voyager and Enterprise recycling plots from the series that came before it. The franchise had become so creatively bankrupt that it couldn't sustain itself. By the time it started taking risks again in the 3rd season of Enterprise, it was already too late. The fanbase was done. As a result Enterprise was the first trek series to be cancelled since TOS and Nemesis killed the movie franchise. 90's trek became horrible television and compared to sci fi series that began to air towards the end, it was dull and dated.

All star trek fans did towards the end of the franchises run was bitch about how horrible it was. In 2009 we got something new but people hated it because they didn't feel it was like the very thing they were bitching about 10 years previously. You're never going to have your unrealistic expectations met. The Original Series will not return in the way some fans want it to, Star Trek will not return in the way some people want it to. No one can predict after having just seen 3 episodes that this so called 'middle finger in the face' will never inhabit the true spirit of Star Trek (whatever that may be). The series needs to take creative risks, because otherwise the franchise will just stay dead.

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Not really. You wouldn't describe The Empire Strikes Back as a "soft reboot" of Star Wars.

I might, especially since the first SW was designed to work on its own as a standalone story in case there were never any sequels, and ESB makes the whole setting so much more expansive and elaborite.

Really? Episodes 1 - 3 are pretty much universally reviled.

Considering the boatloads of money they made, not everybody was reviling them.

Kor
 
Even in business correspondence these days, I see people writing "apart" when they actually mean "a part." These things have opposite meanings. I tried to explain it to a co-worker and just got a blank look.

And then there's "alot"... :brickwall:
I'm glad someone else feels the same way. I had to break my writing partner of "alot" syndrome. Because you don't write "alittle", "abunch", "acantaloupe", or "aporkchop", so don't write "alot".
 
Largely, but not universally.

I gave all three passing grades with the third getting the highest of all. To say they're "universally reviled" is like the blanket statement that Voyager is more popular than Enterprise. In some ways, yes. With many fans, yes. But if one thinks the opinions of a few hundred Trek nerds on a message board reflect the general state of the franchise or any one series in particular then that person may be sorely mistaken.
 
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