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I think they should reboot Spider-Man

I blame Todd Macfarlane. Venom was always a sucky, derivative character that sucks the creative juices out of anything it touches as it did in SM3. And it was Macfarlane that first drew Venom. So it is his fault.

I've always hated Venom. The only time Venom was ever used well was in the old 90s Spider-man animated series.
 
Raimi speaks about the fourth one, due in 2011, but I say wait a few more years and try it again.

If there's any superhero franchise that can sell itself, it's Spider-Man.

It doesn't need Raimi, Maguire, or Dunst. And after the trainwreck of Spider-Man 3, I'm not convinced that Raimi truly cares anymore.


I liked this bit from your link:

The helmer said that they are closing in on Spider-Man's adversary or adversaries for the fourth pic. "All the characters or villains or villains, whatever we decide to do will be from Stan Lee's creations or those that came after him," he said.

So basically that includes absolutely everyone.


The ironic thing is I think Venom was Sam's attempt to give the people what they want (well, they were sure vocal when it was first announced anyway).
 
I don't blame Venom.

I blame Raimi for misusing Venom.

I'm not even the biggest fan of the villain, but the problem was all in the execution...not in the character himself.
 
Venom took Vulture's place, from what I understand, so there'd have been three villains regardless, which is getting a bit tight.

I thought that the symbiote stuff was fairly well-done (and their version of Eddie Brock was excellent; equalizing their ages and making him a photographer, not just a reporter, plays up the key difference between them); the climax is just too crowded.
 
I thought that the symbiote stuff was fairly well-done (and their version of Eddie Brock was excellent; equalizing their ages and making him a photographer, not just a reporter, plays up the key difference between them); the climax is just too crowded.

You know your movie climax is in trouble when you have a news reporter there talking about exactly what's already happening on screen.:lol:
 
I think they should just stop, hardly any franchises at all have successfully pulled off more than 3 movies without ending up sucking terribly.

They should quit while they are still just about ahead, creatively speaking.

It's strange how that affects large motion pictures who have a huge amount of creative time vs some television series that can consistently pump out excellent movie length episodes successively - is it the lack of momentum inherent in making a big screen feature?
 
I don't blame Venom.

I blame Raimi for misusing Venom.

I'm not even the biggest fan of the villain, but the problem was all in the execution...not in the character himself.

So why should the franchise be "rebooted" if you admit that the flaws in #3 were the execution? :wtf:
 
I don't blame Venom.

I blame Raimi for misusing Venom.

I'm not even the biggest fan of the villain, but the problem was all in the execution...not in the character himself.
Then also blame the studio due to pressure from the fanbase for making him use a character he never wanted to in the first place.

I think the saying: "Becareful what you wish for" applies.
 
I'm willing to give Raimi & co another chance. They are 2 for three. Two great movies, and one dissapointing one, and you're ready to give up on them? Creative control should go back to Raimi and his team, not fans, and execs. For 3, I think a more fleshed out Sandman story, and a scheaming Vulture makes for a far better storyline. Add to Peter'a problems, Harry becoming truly evil as the Green Goblin. No New Goblin, THE Goblin, green suit and all. Oh, well. Spider-man 3 is destined to be the most debated comic book film. Even over Batman & Robin. I think Raimi will redeem himself in Spider-man 4.
 
I think they should just stop, hardly any franchises at all have successfully pulled off more than 3 movies without ending up sucking terribly.

They should quit while they are still just about ahead, creatively speaking.

It's strange how that affects large motion pictures who have a huge amount of creative time vs some television series that can consistently pump out excellent movie length episodes successively - is it the lack of momentum inherent in making a big screen feature?

In a sense, because the plots are smaller and stretched out. That gives them more time to breathe, though you also run into the risk of audience fatigue ala Chuck. So a show with a strong plot and characters can easily do multiple episodes of awesome. Multiple movies need "more plot" as it were as each movie has as much plot as multiple episodes or even a season of a show. Having three great movies is equal to having at least one always great season of a show (no stinkers at all) to even multiple seasons. A show that does that is rare as is a movie franchise.

OT: I would not mind seeing a reboot if it was Spidey in HS. I like that dynamic and I don't like that they skipped over it so much in the movies.
 
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