I think it would have been funny if they bailed on Kirk in TSFS.

[enterprisecvn65]

So when they're all on the bridge having set the Enterprise to automation mode and Kirk gives them that little out by saying "Dr. McCoy and I have to do this the rest of you do not."

It would have been kind of humorous if Scott, Sulu and Chekov are all kind of quite for a second and looking at each other awkwardly and then Scott says "Oh thank you Admiral, I mean we love Spock and all, but you know I've put in 30 years in starfleet and I've got a pension and retirement to think about"

Then Chekov says "And I'm hoping to move back to Woscow some day and not live out my days in my home country not stuck in some Wederation prison"

And Sulu goes "Gosh Admiral this is really great of you. See I told you guys he wouldn't demand we ruin our futures and go through with this plan that has little chance for success. And when you look at it Spock and I really had very little interaction together so he was more of an aquaintance than a friend....Well best of luck to you two, let us know how it turns out."

Then as they're getting into the turbo lift Scott turns around and says "Oh and Uhura said if you gave us a chance to bail like this she was out too and said you'd understand.....well bye godspeed."

Then Kirk and McCoy are just standing there sort of dumbstruck and silent for a minute or so.

 

[WraithDukat]

LMAO, you're right that would be funny.

 

[Ar-Pharazon]

It would have made for a funny outtake if nothing else.

 

[2takesfrakes]

I don't see how it could've made it in, considering the humour that eventually found its way into STAR TREK IV. But it would've probably been a bigger laugh than the Chiimpanzee and 2 trainee joke, I wouldn't doubt that ...

 

[FormerLurker]

It would only have worked if the turbolift opened back up and they came back in said "Gotcha!" before getting to work Stealing the Enterprise.

 

[Captain Clark Terrell]

The problem with that scenario is that both Scotty and Sulu had already committed crimes that would have gotten them in trouble regardless of whether they went with Kirk or not (assault and sabotage, respectively); had they refused to help Kirk steal the Enterprise, their only viable option would have been to follow Uhura to the Vulcan embassy to ask for asylum. As humorous as it may have been, it would not have been practical.

--Sran

 

[JWPlatt]

The problem with that scenario is that both Scotty and Sulu had already committed crimes that would have gotten them in trouble regardless of whether they went with Kirk or not (assault and sabotage, respectively); had they refused to help Kirk steal the Enterprise, their only viable option would have been to follow Uhura to the Vulcan embassy to ask for asylum. As humorous as it may have been, it would not have been practical.

Well, that's an extremely reasonable and logical analysis. But not at all funny or entertaining. Spock would be proud.

 

[JonnyQuest037]

It'd be even funnier if Scotty, Sulu, and Chekov didn't say a thing in response to Kirk, just looked at each other, shrugged, and immediately left the bridge.

A few scenes later, when Kirk & McCoy are in massive trouble, we just cut back to the three of them watching an Orion slave girl dancing at a strip club.

 

[Peach Wookiee]

It would have made for a funny outtake if nothing else.

Definite outtake material indeed.

 

[enterprisecvn65]

It'd be even funnier if Scotty, Sulu, and Chekov didn't say a thing in response to Kirk, just looked at each other, shrugged, and immediately left the bridge.

A few scenes later, when Kirk & McCoy are in massive trouble, we just cut back to the three of them watching an Orion slave girl dancing at a strip club.

Would have even better if while watching the show Scotty revealed to Chekov and Sulu he never even sabotaged the Excelsior as payback for all the dick things Kirk (or Shatner I guess) did to them so they're screwed for sure. And they they all laugh uncontrolably and order a bottle of Romulan Ale to celebrate and get blasted while Kirk is being led off the Enterprise in handcuffs. McCoy could probably get off with an insanity plea I would suspect, or that he was forced to participate.

 

[dub]

When I first read the title, I thought you meant it would be funny if they bailed on Kirk when he was on the self-destructing Genesis planet with Spock. Then we'd have Star Trek IV: The Search for Spock, Kirk, and Humpbacks

 

[The Old Mixer]

"Well, now that you mention it, I have a dental appointment on Monday...."
"I think I might have left my oven on...."
"I just remembered, I have to rearrange my sock drawer...."

 

[enterprisecvn65]

Well here's something else to chew on. So assuming the Enterprise was completely automated and the only thing that had be done was steer her and speed her up and slow her down, then sure they could have left and Kirk could have handled it. Just like driving a really big car in outer space. I guess McCoy could have sat in the back playing solitare or something. So that made Chekov and Sulu unnecessary.

But what about Scotty? Kirk offers him the same chance to leave and of course he stays. But if he'd left, there'd be no break out and rescue why?.....the spacedoors.

Scotty is the only one with the technical know how to override the doors to get them open and even has a wee bit o trouble in doing so, making it just in time for the Enterprise to get through.

So how could Kirk had even made that offer of "Don't go further if you really don't want to" to Scotty. Of course I'm sure Kirk truly believed noone would abandon him and McCoy, but what Scotty had some legit reason, like his father was dying or he had been feeling really sick but hid it from Kirk because he didn't want to burden him more. So he has to say "Admiral I haven't told you yet but I can't go on because of ........."

So then what? It wasn't like Scotty could just tell Kirk....ok just push this button, give this command and send this signal and the doors will open, when Scott barely made it happen in time.

I guess the Enterprise could have just fired and blown the doors apart, but firing at things in closed spaces leads to the problem of colleteral damage. Most fans accepted Kirk destroying the Enterprise as a necessary sacrifice to gain the upper hand against Kruge and still have a chance at saving Spock. But even the most ardent Kirk fan would have a hard time supporting him if he blew open the doors and a dozen guys in a nearby post were killed in the blast, don't think you could justify that as a necessary sacrifice.

So if Scott leaves for any reason the other four are just going to be standing on the bridge going.......ok, well I guess we'd better come up with a plan B. So the offer to leave now was pretty moot as far as Scotty was concerned.

 

[Ar-Pharazon]

^ If McCoy channeled Spock at just the right moment, he might have been able to open the doors.

 

[enterprisecvn65]

It's a variation of the standard ''It won't be held against you if you opt out.'' And NOBODY ever does. The cliche's at least 60 years old, and I thought that scene with Spencer Tracy in THIRTY SECONDS OVER TOKYO should have happened with a sudden massive bailout in their meeting room.

Yeah I remember it in the Davy Crockett series from the 50's when they're in the Alamo and are outnumbered by the mexicans 50 to 1 and the commander draws a line in sand and tells anyone who wants to stay and fight cross the line and anyone who wants to try and escape stay behind it and it won't be held against them.

Of course Davy crosses first, and everyone eventually follows, although there is one smarmy character who is the last man to do so and you can tell isn't all that thrilled about it.

Didn't work out too well as they were all slaughtered. The last shot is Fess Parker swinging away with his rifle at dozens of Mexicans after everyone else is dead and then it fades to the credits....Took me a while to realize that Davy didn't miraculous beat off thousands of mexican soldiers and escape and that he probably took a few dozen musket shots right after the picture faded.........one of the more trumatic realizations of my childhood.

 

[Green Shirt]

Reminds me of how the Belushi/Chase/Akroyd SNL Trek skit ended. The show was cancelled, and everybody walked off leaving Belushi/Kirk alone on the bridge.

 

[martok2112]

On the bridge of the Enterprise, Kirk, McCoy, and Sulu enter. Scotty and Chekov are going through final chekovs--er--chekouts----gaaaahhhhh..... check outs!

Scotty: As promised, she's all yours, sir. A chimpanzee an' two trainees could run 'er.

Kirk: (smiling). I'll try not to take that personally, Mr. Scott. My friends, I cannot ask you to go any further. Doctor McCoy and I have to do this. The rest of you do not.

SULU gets up and starts for the turbolift. Kirk and McCoy stare in bewilderment after their departing helmsman.

McCoy: Sulu?

Sulu: Hey, I was supposed to command the Excelsior, (glares at Kirk) and thanks to your downplaying of what should've been a proud moment for me, now I'm just a goddamned Asian helmsman like I was in the 60's and in the first two films. I've got a career to think about. Best of luck though.

Sulu steps into the turbolift. He holds it open for any others who might wish to exeunt.

CHEKOV is the next to head for the turbolift. Kirk and McCoy's disbelief only widens, wordlessly. As Chekov enters the turbolift, he nods to Sulu, turns on his heel, and faces Kirk, McCoy, and Scotty.

Kirk: (almost a whisper) Chekov?

Chekov: I'm werry sorry, Edmeeral, but you are seemply no fun to be around anymore. That 15 year wendetta zet Khan hedd against you cost me my Executive Officer stettus. I vaz vorking my vay to command, and now I am just zet Russian nevvegator and veppins officer. Oodayechiiye, Tovarisch Keptin. Do svdenye.

Kirk and McCoy sigh in resignation. With great presumption, Kirk faces the viewscreen, and says absently to Scotty:

Kirk: Mr.Scott, clear all moorings, engage energizers, and

McCoy is tapping on Kirk's shoulder, interrupting his command string. Annoyed, Kirk whirls on McCoy, and before he can admonish the doctor, he sees SCOTTY already standing in the turbolift. Now, Kirk and McCoy's incredulity reaches full swing.

Kirk: (throwing both arms up in abject disbelief). Not you too, Scotty?

Scotty: That last little bout we had cost me ma' nephew, Jim, lad. Throw Spock in the mix, an' tha' oughtta make us just aboat e'en. Luck to ye' though, Cap'n.


Kirk and McCoy look at each other, and then look at the viewscreen, then back at the departing crewmen, then back at each other. With a shrug of the shoulders, they also start heading for the turbolift.

Kirk: Been nice knowin' ya, Spock.

Spock's voice through McCoy: I understand, Captain.

McCoy: (shaking his head trying to shrug off the Spock effect). Dammit, Jim, now we'll never get him outta my head. How am I supposed to live with that?

Kirk: You'll get used to it.

Before McCoy can respond, the turbolift doors close.

Several seconds pass.....


The doors open again and the crew come running out to their stations....

Scotty: (frantically tuning controls). All automates available, Cap'n!

Sulu: (same urgency as Scotty). Impulse and warp at your command, and course laid in for Genesis, sir! Damn if I didn't need these paychecks!

Chekov: (turning dramatically in his comms chair, holding his earpiece). Sir, Commander, Starfleet on emergency chennel. He orders you to surrender zis wessel.

McCoy: (irate and clearly offended somehow). Absolutely not!!! I am NOT going back into that turbolift after one of you bastards ripped a godawful fart in there! A Klingon would run in fear of that!

Kirk: (smugly smiling to self as he takes his command seat). Ahead, one quarter impulse power.