I know why the new "Terminator" movie isn't very good!

[Jayson]

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Am I the only one here who thinks Skynet in itself doesn't make for a good villian. I was thinking about what the movie was missing and I realized that we didn't really have a villian with any kind of identy at all. In the other movies the Terminators sort of narrow the focus of the action down to something that is easier to understand. They want to kill Sarah Connor or John Connor. Skynet doesn't really have a goal of any sort that we can relate to or even understand. Therefore the movie is just a bunch of actions scenes against random Terminators.

Jason

 

[Dick Whitman]

While I like the new movie but I agree with this. Sequels are going to have to find a way to give Skynet a personality or persona of somekind.

 

[DarKush]

You might have a point there. But at the same time I don't know if they should personalize Skynet. It sort of reminds me of how in ST First Contact they created the Borg Queen. It worked for the movie, but it sort of robbed the Borg of the unique collective consciousness concept, and turned them more into standard expansionist type villains.

However, it would be nice to have Skynet want to do more than preserve itself. That its working toward a mission.

 

[od0_ital]

While I like the new movie but I agree with this. Sequels are going to have to find a way to give Skynet a personality or persona of somekind.

It's thinkin' like that that gave us the Borg Queen!

 

[StarTrek1701]

My biggest gripe with the movie was:

HOW THE HELL DOES SKYNET KNOW WHO KYLE REESE IS AND WHY IS HE HUNTING FOR A GUY WHO SHOULDN'T HAVE ANY RECORDS ANYWAYS?!

 

[Dick Whitman]

While I like the new movie but I agree with this. Sequels are going to have to find a way to give Skynet a personality or persona of somekind.

It's thinkin' like that that gave us the Borg Queen!

I could just be a distinct musical theme you know!

 

[Greg Cox]

My biggest gripe with the movie was:

HOW THE HELL DOES SKYNET KNOW WHO KYLE REESE IS AND WHY IS HE HUNTING FOR A GUY WHO SHOULDN'T HAVE ANY RECORDS ANYWAYS?!

That's easy to explain away. The T-X was present at SkyNet's start-up in the last movie. She also reprogrammed several of the early Terminator prototypes. Heck, she was sneaking all around SkyNet HQ for the whole last part of the movie. I assume she downloaded vital info on Kyle Reese, John Connor, etcetra, while she was infiltrating SkyNet.

 

[Jayson]

Skynet might also have made the leap by looking at old newspaper articles or police files. Let's not forget that John Reese was arrested in the first movie. They also know about the Terminator's attack on the police station. Kyle Reese escapes and i would asume he would be seen as a wanted criminal after the events of the first movie. In otherwords they proably have studied the events of all the terminator movies and basically put two and two together. Also Sarah Connor proably told her Doctors at the mental hospital that Kyle Reese was John's dad and thus that also proably ended up on some computer file that skynet was eventually able to access.

Jason

 

[Greg Cox]

Good point. I forgot that Sarah had been raving about Terminators coming back from the future to kill her son for years--to doctors, FBI agents, etc.

 

[Supreme Admiral]

Was it very loud as I've been told? Rather than hearing the storyline?

 

[Messianni]

Maybe it's because Skynet is, for a computer, highly unintelligent.

I mean really: the T-800 could have crushed John Connor's neck more than once and yet what does he do? Throw him against a wall, catch up to him, throw him against another wall, rinse, repeat.

 

[nx1701g]

Maybe it's because Skynet is, for a computer, highly unintelligent.

I mean really: the T-800 could have crushed John Connor's neck more than once and yet what does he do? Throw him against a wall, catch up to him, throw him against another wall, rinse, repeat.

Which I have to admit is very unusual. You would assume that they were designed to terminate as quickly as possible rather than toying with their target.

 

[Messianni]

Maybe it's because Skynet is, for a computer, highly unintelligent.

I mean really: the T-800 could have crushed John Connor's neck more than once and yet what does he do? Throw him against a wall, catch up to him, throw him against another wall, rinse, repeat.

Which I have to admit is very unusual. You would assume that they were designed to terminate as quickly as possible rather than toying with their target.

Admittedly Connor seems to be invulnerable to constant wall throws, or large steel doors been propelled at him at point-blank range. Or steel beams thrust right through his chest, somehow.

 

[T'Baio]

I get real tired...not just from T4, but lots of other movies...of people being thrown against things like metal cabinets so hard that it's completely dented and collapsed to the point of being unrecognizable, and then the person just gets up and keeps fighting. You know, as if their spine wouldn't be crushed into a million pieces.

It's getting a little ridiculous. I mean, throw people around, sure. I can suspend my disbelief. But when someone's head takes a chunk out of a concrete pillar and they only have a little cut above the eye...come on.

 

[StarTrek1701]

^^Not only that but throwing them away by the neck. Wouldn't that snap the neck anyways?

 

[RandyS]

Yes it would. And given a Terminator's strength, probably rip the head clean off.

 

[Snaploud]

Skynet can be a great villain when the director manages to capture the unrelenting image of the terminators mowing down humanity. A good director/writer has to take the audience through an emotional journey from sadness/helplessness to exhilaration/victory. Otherwise, it's just a collection of action scenes with little to no point (like what we got in T4).

 

[Snaploud]

^Obviously, humanity has already been replaced by organic terminators. The war is nothing more than a game played by Skynet. It's the only explanation for why humans are so durable.

 

[Aragorn]

In the next movie, they'll discover the bad guy is... Aaron Skynet.

I mean really: the T-800 could have crushed John Connor's neck more than once and yet what does he do? Throw him against a wall, catch up to him, throw him against another wall, rinse, repeat.

Jason Vorhees kills people with his first strike... until he gets to the star, then decides he has to mess around with them.

 

[Temis the Vorta]

While I like the new movie but I agree with this. Sequels are going to have to find a way to give Skynet a personality or persona of somekind.

It's thinkin' like that that gave us the Borg Queen!

My first thought, too.

Screw Terminator, watch Star Trek!!!!