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I Know, I Know... but Still! (A Different E-Readers vs Print Rant)

Re: I Know, I Know... but Still! (A Different E-Readers vs Print Rant

I thought the prices were a rip, some of them were upwards of $6 if I remember correctly. Maybe I'm part of the problem, if people are willing to pay $6 why should they lower the prices.

Supply and demand usually work the other way around: The more people who buy the product, the easier it is to lower prices.
 
Re: I Know, I Know... but Still! (A Different E-Readers vs Print Rant

I thought the prices were a rip, some of them were upwards of $6 if I remember correctly. Maybe I'm part of the problem, if people are willing to pay $6 why should they lower the prices.

Supply and demand usually work the other way around: The more people who buy the product, the easier it is to lower prices.

There are some categories of consumer goods today that I don't think are subject to the standard economic models. Entertainment goods with only one producer are at the top of that list.

Pocket could lower prices, but why would they lower prices? If they are hitting their revenue and sales targets at $5.99 or higher, there's no compelling reason for them to lower prices to sell more. To the contrary; once they're hit their targets, they can raise prices because at that point they're making free money. And as the monopoly producer of Star Trek fiction, they don't need to lower prices to compete for market share, so lower prices would only eat into their revenues.
 
Re: I Know, I Know... but Still! (A Different E-Readers vs Print Rant

But back on topic, I'd REALLY like to see novels available in different countries on the same date. Or at least within a day or two...
The eBook versions presumably do? To sync up the release of print copies is far more trouble than it's worth, as we've seen, it doesn't even happen within the same country, let alone internationally. And because of the models they work on, most book stores just don't have the space to keep loads of books 'in the back' for weeks waiting for a publication date. Stuff comes in, and goes out as soon as they can sort it. Frequent your local book store, buy lots of stuff there, chat to the staff, and maybe you start finding that when Trek books come in they end up getting out there faster!

Supply and demand usually work the other way around: The more people who buy the product, the easier it is to lower prices.
Supply and demand is tricky with electronic products though. Technically, supply of an eBook is infinite, so the price should tend towards zero. Which is silly, of course, but shows how much digital distribution breaks even the basics of our economic models.

And as the monopoly producer of Star Trek fiction, they don't need to lower prices to compete for market share, so lower prices would only eat into their revenues.
That's interesting. It's notable if that is the case, then it supposes that Pocket are happy with just limiting their market to 'people who want to read Star Trek fiction'. Which may well be the case these days. Though it totally ignores the wider field of people who just happen to like Star Trek and also read books - in which they're competing with every other book ever published.
 
Re: I Know, I Know... but Still! (A Different E-Readers vs Print Rant

And as the monopoly producer of Star Trek fiction, they don't need to lower prices to compete for market share, so lower prices would only eat into their revenues.
That's interesting. It's notable if that is the case, then it supposes that Pocket are happy with just limiting their market to 'people who want to read Star Trek fiction'. Which may well be the case these days. Though it totally ignores the wider field of people who just happen to like Star Trek and also read books - in which they're competing with every other book ever published.

I'd argue that's been true of Pocket Books for... well... forever, and not just limited to the eBook world. :)

It's the nature of the tie-in business. The market is generally limited to people who want to read about the property.

That said, I'm totally sympathetic to those who think that Pocket prices their eBook originals above where they should. The comparable Doctor Who eBook originals (last year's anniversary stories, this year's Time Trips) are priced at at roughly half the price as a similar Star Trek eBook. I understand the production costs argument for the pricing of eBook originals, yet I look at the price and wonder if Pocket is really trying to "win" in that market.
 
Re: I Know, I Know... but Still! (A Different E-Readers vs Print Rant

That said, I'm totally sympathetic to those who think that Pocket prices their eBook originals above where they should. The comparable Doctor Who eBook originals (last year's anniversary stories, this year's Time Trips) are priced at at roughly half the price as a similar Star Trek eBook. I understand the production costs argument for the pricing of eBook originals, yet I look at the price and wonder if Pocket is really trying to "win" in that market.
Absent Enemies has a $2 list price, more comparable to the Doctor Who titles. I wonder if it's an experiment to try to see if the price point is viable or helpful for sales, or if it's really that much shorter?
 
Re: I Know, I Know... but Still! (A Different E-Readers vs Print Rant

That said, I'm totally sympathetic to those who think that Pocket prices their eBook originals above where they should. The comparable Doctor Who eBook originals (last year's anniversary stories, this year's Time Trips) are priced at at roughly half the price as a similar Star Trek eBook. I understand the production costs argument for the pricing of eBook originals, yet I look at the price and wonder if Pocket is really trying to "win" in that market.
Absent Enemies has a $2 list price, more comparable to the Doctor Who titles. I wonder if it's an experiment to try to see if the price point is viable or helpful for sales, or if it's really that much shorter?

£3.99 on Kindle from Amazon UK. That's $6.52.

Fair ?
 
Re: I Know, I Know... but Still! (A Different E-Readers vs Print Rant

It's 1,87 € on amazon.de, which equals 2,54 $, so I'm curious why amazon.co.uk doesn't lie in the same price range.
 
Re: I Know, I Know... but Still! (A Different E-Readers vs Print Rant

And as the monopoly producer of Star Trek fiction, they don't need to lower prices to compete for market share, so lower prices would only eat into their revenues.
That's interesting. It's notable if that is the case, then it supposes that Pocket are happy with just limiting their market to 'people who want to read Star Trek fiction'. Which may well be the case these days. Though it totally ignores the wider field of people who just happen to like Star Trek and also read books - in which they're competing with every other book ever published.

I'd argue that's been true of Pocket Books for... well... forever, and not just limited to the eBook world. :)

It's the nature of the tie-in business. The market is generally limited to people who want to read about the property.

That said, I'm totally sympathetic to those who think that Pocket prices their eBook originals above where they should. The comparable Doctor Who eBook originals (last year's anniversary stories, this year's Time Trips) are priced at at roughly half the price as a similar Star Trek eBook. I understand the production costs argument for the pricing of eBook originals, yet I look at the price and wonder if Pocket is really trying to "win" in that market.
I seems to me like Trek stuff is occasionally more expensive than other the non-Trek versions of the same products. Maybe it was just me, but when they were first coming out it seemed like the Trek DVDs tended to be more expensive than other, similar TV series DVDs.
 
Re: I Know, I Know... but Still! (A Different E-Readers vs Print Rant

But back on topic, I'd REALLY like to see novels available in different countries on the same date. Or at least within a day or two...

Don't use Amazon then. Use the Book Depository, I haven't ordered a book from them since Cold Equations as I'm now just using my Nook, but they offer free world wide delivery and they used to be delivered on the "official" release date or upto a couple of days later and not upto a month after that Amazon offers!
 
Re: I Know, I Know... but Still! (A Different E-Readers vs Print Rant

Pocket's Star Trek books are incredibly cheap, at least on Amazon. Most of them are less than four Euro in the Kindle section. Compare that with prices of non-PB ST releases like F:150Y and Stellar Cartography. In my local book stores, most Sci-Fi books cost € 20 and more.

I wouldn't look a gift horse into its mouth and just be grateful for the high quality for little money.
 
Re: I Know, I Know... but Still! (A Different E-Readers vs Print Rant

It's 1,87 € on amazon.de, which equals 2,54 $, so I'm curious why amazon.co.uk doesn't lie in the same price range.

Because we keep paying it ?
 
Re: I Know, I Know... but Still! (A Different E-Readers vs Print Rant

Rip off UK Kindlebook charges aside, I'm through with Amazon for my Treklit anyway. They've done away with free postage on orders under £10 which negates the preorder price saving. I'll click and collect from Waterstones...
 
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Re: I Know, I Know... but Still! (A Different E-Readers vs Print Rant

^ Or as I suggested, use The Book Depository, it has free delivery world wide.
 
Re: I Know, I Know... but Still! (A Different E-Readers vs Print Rant

I had a look on the Book Depository and most Treklit was coming up as unavailable. I'll have another look later.

I have used them before, but they didn't use sturdy cardboard packaging like Amazon, just a jiffybag...
 
Re: I Know, I Know... but Still! (A Different E-Readers vs Print Rant

I have used them before, but they didn't use sturdy cardboard packaging like Amazon, just a jiffybag...
Maybe Amazon.co.uk is different, but Amazon.com is more than willing to use jiffybags unfortunately.
 
Re: I Know, I Know... but Still! (A Different E-Readers vs Print Rant

Seems to be an Amazon US thing then. I've never gotten anything from amazon.de that wasn't packaged in cardboard (and it seems that the European outlets share the same packaging since the web addresses of several of them is printed on them .de, .co.uk,.fr etc.).
 
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