What about Amazon.com or places like that? You've got 'net access, so you can order from them..
I just got carded at Walmart...
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What about Amazon.com or places like that? You've got 'net access, so you can order from them..
...because I attempted to purchase a PG-13 movie.
But did you have to show your receipt at the door to get out?
^ I think he meant, did the Walmart have that "Final Indignity" which some places do, that they make you show them the receipt before they will let you leave.
Most places do this in violation of the law. There's nothing that compels you to submit to it. Unless it's at a place like Costco, in which case the Final Indignity is part of the membership agreement.
Most places do this in violation of the law. There's nothing that compels you to submit to it. Unless it's at a place like Costco, in which case the Final Indignity is part of the membership agreement.
^ But as I said, Walmart is not ALLOWED to do that. They can't stop you on your way out and demand anything. Unless they have probable cause to suspect you of shoplifting, you would be entirely within your rights to ignore them and just keep on walking.
who says Walmart isn't allowed to ask to see a receipt at the door?
it's common sense, man!
if I see a guy wheeling a big TV out the door I'm going to ask to see a receipt.
if I see basically any large item not in a bag I'm going to ask to see a receipt.
this has nothing to do with 'probable cause'
and nothing to do with accusations of shoplifting
just common sense.
do you also have a problem with cashiers asking to look inside luggage, coolers or storage bins?
regarding the PG13 thing, I have NEVER had any PG13 DVD pop up with the age verification thing . . . R rated movies and M rated games, yes, and even then I don't card
I do however ask to make sure the parents know what the game is rated etc
and yeah I work at Wally World
it's common sense, man!
if I see a guy wheeling a big TV out the door I'm going to ask to see a receipt.
if I see basically any large item not in a bag I'm going to ask to see a receipt.
this has nothing to do with 'probable cause'
and nothing to do with accusations of shoplifting
just common sense.
do you also have a problem with cashiers asking to look inside luggage, coolers or storage bins?
regarding the PG13 thing, I have NEVER had any PG13 DVD pop up with the age verification thing . . . R rated movies and M rated games, yes, and even then I don't card
I do however ask to make sure the parents know what the game is rated etc
and yeah I work at Wally World
Bag searches and receipt checks have to be voluntary with the exception of the aforementioned club stores where it's part of the contract you sign to join. Stores can only detain you or involuntarily search your bag if they have reasonable suspicion of shoplifting. They have the right to ask to check a receipt or look in your bag, but you have every right to say "no" and walk right out the door. In which case they will likely ban you from the store, though, which is also within their rights.
If showing a recipt exiting a store bothers someone they are both overly sensitive and lacking other, more serious, challenges in life.
Having to check bags from neighboring retailers at the service desk is a more serious issue to me. I'm just not inclined to wait for the service counter personnel twice (once to check the bags then again to reclaim them). There's also the issue of resposibility if my property isn't available when I come back to reclaim it. Thus, when asked to check my purchases from other stores I just turn around and leave without even shopping there.
There's been a few times those inventory control systems have gone off for no reason when I entered or exited a store. Knowing I'm carrying nothing from that store I just keep walking.
Yeah, it's always interesting when stores don't follow the law. It's playing with fire if you ask me. In New Mexico, we've had liquor shops get shut down for to many no-carding violations.
I was on a fire assignment in California a couple years ago, running information and maps to local businesses and gethering points. One of my stops was a backwater bar near a small town. Signs up all over the place that said "no smoking" but of course, everyone was.. LOL
I've never been carded for anything I wanted to buy (including alcohol when I was below the drinking age ). In my youth I sort of looked older and more mature than I actually was. Also, it seems, people aren't as hysterical about age limits here as in other countries.
). In my youth I sort of looked older and more mature than I actually was. Also, it seems, people aren't as hysterical about age limits here as in other countries.
Rett Mikhal
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All these stories reminded me of another instance when I was buying PVC pipe. The clerk said he had to ask me if I was using it for a bomb.
Now I was very proud of myself for this. I thought in my head: "A bomb? No, don't be ridiculous. What kind of bomb would a plastic housing make? Pipe bombs aren't about the explosion, but the shrapnel. Just think of the low mass for the kinematic energy equation."
Then I realized what it would look like.
So I just said no. I am so glad I didn't go with my initial reaction of relying on physics and logic to explain everything. I can only imagine the clerk's reaction to that.
Now I was very proud of myself for this. I thought in my head: "A bomb? No, don't be ridiculous. What kind of bomb would a plastic housing make? Pipe bombs aren't about the explosion, but the shrapnel. Just think of the low mass for the kinematic energy equation."
Then I realized what it would look like.
So I just said no. I am so glad I didn't go with my initial reaction of relying on physics and logic to explain everything. I can only imagine the clerk's reaction to that.
^^ In college we were making a giant sling shot to shoot water balloons over the dorm into the courtyard of another dorm and needed surgical tubing for it's elasticity. We went to a medical supply store and had to spend 10 minutes convincing the manager that we weren't going to use it to make a bunch of beer bongs. She finally gave in and let us buy it.
Also in college, I went into a liquor store on my 21st birthday and bought some beer. The guy didn't card me, and that pissed me off a little. I could have been going there for months had I known they didn't card.
Also in college, I went into a liquor store on my 21st birthday and bought some beer. The guy didn't card me, and that pissed me off a little. I could have been going there for months had I known they didn't card.
They were checking to see if he was over 17. PG-13 movies aren't supposed to prompt for ID, so I don't know why that happened.
When I worked at Wal-Mart I sold R-rated movies to teenagers all the time. It's not against the law, it's Wal-Mart's dumbass policy. Now, sometimes, if it was a shitty movie that nobody of any age should be watching, I'd card them.
No, not really. I only carded them when it was like, a group of asshole teenagers running around tearing shit up, riding the bikes, throwing balls and running into people. They'd come over to electronics and try to buy "Jackass: The Movie" or something, and I'd take great pleasure in denying them the sale.
Once I was buying one of those eyeglass repair kits with the little screwdriver that's got a chamber full of different sized screws and nosepads or whatever, and some dickhead in line behind me peers over my shoulder and says, "What are you going to do with that hypodermic needle?" He was really angry, and he was speaking to me very condescendingly, started accusing me of being a junkie. It was ridiculous. He felt stupid when I pointed out that it was a screwdriver. I don't know what I was thinking. Normally I'd tell such a person to fuck right off and mind his own business, but I guess I just wasn't in the mood for a confrontation.
I guess my funniest story of being carded was from two years ago, when I was in Atlanta for Dragon*Con. I was in the Hyatt's bar, and ordered a Guinness. The bartender asked for my ID. Now, I don't have a driver's license, and my passport was in my hotel room (why would I carry it around with me when I didn't need to?), so I pulled out my Ontario health card, which has a picture and my birthdate. It's not legal to use it for proof of age here, but in Atlanta, they didn't know that.
So she took it from me, looked at me, looked at the picture, looked at my birthdate, and started to hand it back. Her eyes suddenly got wide, and she pulled it back and looked at it again. She then handed it to me and said, "I'm sorry." (I was 41 at the time.)
So she took it from me, looked at me, looked at the picture, looked at my birthdate, and started to hand it back. Her eyes suddenly got wide, and she pulled it back and looked at it again. She then handed it to me and said, "I'm sorry." (I was 41 at the time.)
Rett Mikhal
Captain
See it's time like that I really wish more people had adamantium claws. Can you imagine how much intelligence scores would go up if more people had adamantium claws with the will to use them?
I believe Christopher Titus did a skit like this called the "Everyone has a gun plan."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYXI...A32CDD6A&playnext_from=PL&playnext=1&index=28
While I do agree that it is a much more exciting theory to assume that the corporations are taking over the world by requesting ID's for everything, have you considered that it was simply in error? Maybe something was entered incorrectly into the system that indicated the movie was R rather than PG-13. Or maybe the cashier thought that the movie was R and requested the ID out of habit.
I rarely get ID'ed for anything. I've only been asked once of the three times I've been drinking and I rarely, if ever, get asked when I'm buying movies or games.
I got used to having my bag searched in stores when I lived in Belfast during the late eighties. Then they searched you going in, and they weren't looking for merchandise...
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