Yes ^^ but IN the cave, Spock told young Kirk that there was a base nearby...Kirk didn't tell Spock...Spock already knew.
Was this before or after the mind meld?
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Was this before or after the mind meld?
Spock had probably resigned himself to the fact that even if he did somehow get a message out, it would not be in time to stop Nero. Being a logical man, he probably thought it wise to rest and shelter in the cave awhile, rather than risking a senseless death attempting to reach the base in one pop.
Yup that's exactly why.
I didn't mean to stop Nero...I meant to tell the Vulcans to get the HECK off the planet.
Spock never mentioned the Starfleet outpost until AFTER the mind-meld. Before the mind-meld, he and Kirk were making a campfire and relaxing. Spock did not seem terribly interested in going anywhere BEFORE the mind-meld.Was this before or after the mind meld?Yes ^^ but IN the cave, Spock told young Kirk that there was a base nearby...Kirk didn't tell Spock...Spock already knew.
Also, Starfleet received the report of the "lightning storm in space" at 22:00 the previous evening before the distress call from Vulcan; that would be the anomaly where Nero captured Spock. At 23:00, the Narada attacked 47 Klingon Warbirds. Then there was the travel time from the Neutral Zone to Vulcan, the time it took Nero to drop off Spock on Delta Vega, then start drilling into Vulcan's core, then the hour it took the Enterprise to get from Earth to Vulcan the next morning.
It could be that Nero dropped Spock off just an hour before he started drilling on Vulcan, so Spock would not have enough time to get to the outpost, even if he knew where it was.
But I don't think Spock even knew about the outpost until he mind-melded with Kirk, since Nero probably didn't tell him about it, and he had no radio or scanner with him, so unless he saw it from the top of a mountain peak on the horizon, he probably didn't know about the outpost until he got the information from Kirk's mind.
I thought Spock knew about the outpost by the mind meld with Kirk.
oooorrrrrrr.....since Spock Prime was from the future...and Delta Vega is, apparently, so close to Vulcan, Spock would have known for YEARS exactly where it was located.
sorry, the devil made me say that
That's assuming he knew he was on Delta Vega before Vulcan was destroyed. I've only seen the movie once, so I can't remember his phrasing- but it's possible he only realised exactly where he was when he felt the minds of the Vulcans being destroyed - and then realises that Nero did it deliberately to make him experience it without being able to help.
My interpretation of Red Matter is, that it's relatively inert and harmless in one big blob.
We only see it react/ignite when the small drops merge with matter in a gravity well or other red matter drops.
Could be, the tricky part is to produce one big blob of it at once to make is actually transport safe.
We only see it react/ignite when the small drops merge with matter in a gravity well or other red matter drops.
Could be, the tricky part is to produce one big blob of it at once to make is actually transport safe.
1) When Spock wanted the Red Matter, he may not have known how much was needed, and later figured out that very little was required. Bearing in mind, he was in a race against time to stop the Nova.
2) Spock was marooned, but we don't know how far he was from the Federation Outpost, and it is possible that Spock didn't quite know at first. It too Kirk and Spock at least a short time to get there.
2) Spock was marooned, but we don't know how far he was from the Federation Outpost, and it is possible that Spock didn't quite know at first. It too Kirk and Spock at least a short time to get there.
I would hope so. But he may well have stopped running and found a cave once he saw Vulcan explode. At that point, what good would he be at the outpost?
