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I hate radio "fast-talk"

Here's a little secret about radio: most people don't actually like music. They think they do, but they don't. They just want something to make a vaguely pleasant noise while they're driving or cooking or whatever. From time to time, they'd like to hear something that sounds familiar and reminds them of their youth, and from time to time, they want to hear a human voice. The proportion of people who actually listen to the music and have an opinion about it is less than 10%.
I think you've misspoken. It's more like only 10% of the people listening to the radio are listening to it for music. Not that people don't actually like music, that's absurd. Everyone else is listening to their own tunes via ipods or mix cd's.
 
Here's a little secret about radio: most people don't actually like music. They think they do, but they don't. They just want something to make a vaguely pleasant noise while they're driving or cooking or whatever. From time to time, they'd like to hear something that sounds familiar and reminds them of their youth, and from time to time, they want to hear a human voice. The proportion of people who actually listen to the music and have an opinion about it is less than 10%.
I think you've misspoken. It's more like only 10% of the people listening to the radio are listening to it for music. Not that people don't actually like music, that's absurd. Everyone else is listening to their own tunes via ipods or mix cd's.
Indeed. I listen to the radio as a last resort if for some reason I can't listen to my own music.
 
. . . The fringes of my area code and the neighboring area code, sure, are long distance. But long distance vs. local isn't based on area code it's based on your area and the phone service.
I live in the 310 area code. If I dial a number in downtown Los Angeles (213), the central area surrounding downtown (323), or the San Fernando Valley (818), it's charged as a local call. I think.

But, even if I’m calling another number in my own area code, I still have to dial 1-310 first.

BTW, when direct distance dialing was first introduced 40 years ago, the entire Los Angeles area was covered by the 213 area code.
 
. . . The fringes of my area code and the neighboring area code, sure, are long distance. But long distance vs. local isn't based on area code it's based on your area and the phone service.
I live in the 310 area code. If I dial a number in downtown Los Angeles (213), the central area surrounding downtown (323), or the San Fernando Valley (818), it's charged as a local call. I think.

But, even if I’m calling another number in my own area code, I still have to dial 1-310 first.

BTW, when direct distance dialing was first introduced 40 years ago, the entire Los Angeles area was covered by the 213 area code.

No, I think even 213 or 323 is considered long-distance now. I hate the fact that I have to dial 1, the area code, then the frakking number... it's getting to be that local number calling is just as involved as dialing the 10-10-987 stuff.
 
oh, i FUCKING HATE morning shows, I'm convinced that they are there to get people to buy CD's to listen to in the morning instead of the radio
 
The only thing I don't like about the fast-talk legal disclaimers at the end is, a lot of times, they say it all so quickly that you can't actually understand what they're saying. It's not the same as a commercial on TV because you can read the print (though they usually tend to put it in small letters easily lost in the background). So if someone does something wrong because they couldn't understand the whole disclaimer because it was read too fast, the people who put out the advertisement can still say "Hey, we put the disclaimer out there, we're not liable for [insert problem here]."
 
. . . The fringes of my area code and the neighboring area code, sure, are long distance. But long distance vs. local isn't based on area code it's based on your area and the phone service.
I live in the 310 area code. If I dial a number in downtown Los Angeles (213), the central area surrounding downtown (323), or the San Fernando Valley (818), it's charged as a local call. I think.

But, even if I’m calling another number in my own area code, I still have to dial 1-310 first.

BTW, when direct distance dialing was first introduced 40 years ago, the entire Los Angeles area was covered by the 213 area code.

No, I think even 213 or 323 is considered long-distance now. I hate the fact that I have to dial 1, the area code, then the frakking number... it's getting to be that local number calling is just as involved as dialing the 10-10-987 stuff.

My area code is 815, but it's such a big area code that even if I make a call to another 815 number it still counts as long distance.

Of course, that would assume I used a landline, which I don't. My cell has free nation-wide calling, so it's not really an issue. But I were to use my parents' landline, I could call certain numbers within their own area code and get charged extra.
 
Yeah, the extreme Western edge of my area code is outside my "metro area" and thus would be long distance on a standard phone line. This is where exchanges come in, in high school I had a friend who lived on the border of the local/long distance areas. The area he was in, apparently, didn't have enough numbers available for the local exchange (the first three digits of the actual phone number) so the exchange he had was long-distance because it belonged in the long-distance area for the area code. So, basically, on a phone-number front his phone number was "long distance" because it had a certain exchange but his neighbor was local on the phone number front because their exchange was the one designated for the city they were both actually in.

Convoluted as fuck but I'm sure someone understands all of this. I'd also suspect that in a time when phones are so common place that the whole idea of "long distance" (for land lines at least) wouldn't be old hat. I'm really using that many more resources for decades-old phone lines when I'm calling New York vs. calling across town? Is calling 2000 more miles really costing several hundred times more per minute to the point that my $40 unlimited calling phone bill now is costing me a few cents a minute?

On the radio front:

On my drive-in to work, which takes me about 10 minutes, usually I listen to the news to get at the very least weather information and quick updates on local/national/world events.
 
Not me. Just play the music.
You don't need the radio for that.

I think you've misspoken. It's more like only 10% of the people listening to the radio are listening to it for music. Not that people don't actually like music, that's absurd. Everyone else is listening to their own tunes via ipods or mix cd's.
No, I did not misspoke. Lots of people like music, just like lots of people like architecture or sculpture. It's just that these people are only a tiny minority of the population. But if you don't believe me, that's fine: radio is based on the assumption that people actually enjoy music.
 
Yeah, but they talk over the intro of the song, or cut it out entirely, talk over or cut off the coda of the song and use "radio edits" of songs so either the language is tempered or the song is shorter. So, no thanks, if I want to listen to music I'll listen to my CD.
 
I live in the 310 area code. If I dial a number in downtown Los Angeles (213), the central area surrounding downtown (323), or the San Fernando Valley (818), it's charged as a local call. I think.

But, even if I’m calling another number in my own area code, I still have to dial 1-310 first.

BTW, when direct distance dialing was first introduced 40 years ago, the entire Los Angeles area was covered by the 213 area code.

No, I think even 213 or 323 is considered long-distance now. I hate the fact that I have to dial 1, the area code, then the frakking number... it's getting to be that local number calling is just as involved as dialing the 10-10-987 stuff.

My area code is 815, but it's such a big area code that even if I make a call to another 815 number it still counts as long distance.

Of course, that would assume I used a landline, which I don't. My cell has free nation-wide calling, so it's not really an issue. But I were to use my parents' landline, I could call certain numbers within their own area code and get charged extra.

Yeah, 815 covers my hometown too so it's a big code.
 
Back when we first had dial-up internet, AOL gave us the option of selecting multiple phone numbers to use in case our first choice didn't connect. I, the ignorant 12-year old that I was, naturally selected all of the numbers with 815 area codes, not knowing that some of them actually qualified as long distance. My parents were not excited to get their phone bill that month.
 
Same thing here, all of the 913 AOL numbers were long distance as they were on the fringes of the area code, outside the metro area. The area code we were supposed to use was 816 to call into Downtown Kansas City, Missouri -a local call. This was before the area introduced 10-digit dialing and with AOL you'd enter your Area Code and it'd give you a list of numbers for that area code but not necessarily "local" numbers which, apparently, you were just "supposed to know." Rather than AOL having you enter, say, your Zip Code and then the program giving you the numbers closest to that area code. Dial-Up sucked away, LONG LIVE broadband!
 
I think there's two reasons for "framing".

1) So that you can't record the song and get a "clean copy", which you could then pass on to your mates as an "illegal MP3".

2) The same reason TV presenters talk over credits - so that they can prove a 'need' for the time, otherwise the DJ will have his voice-time cut and be told to put on more songs/adverts/etc.

Top-40 deejays have been doing “framing” for as long as I can remember. They were doing it back in the 1950s and ’60s, long before the internet, digital audio and file-sharing. But the trick was to talk right up to the moment the vocals start. “Stepping on” the singer(s) was considered unprofessional and bad form.

Always called it "hitting the post" in this part of the world.

Some program directors insist on it, even if you have finished what you have to say long before the vocals start.

Nothing more embarrassing than "crashing" the vocals. Usually this is the fault of the production department or PD speeding up the intro or editing it down and catching the DJ unawares. Moral of the story : audition everything!

All these techniques are designed so that 12 songs can be played as well as ten minutes of ads and two minutes of news.

Young radio talent reading this : talking up to the vocals shouldn't be done on iconic rock songs. Some guitar riffs should be left alone - just pisses the listener off when you try to talk over them.

Just let me listen to the music dammit! :scream:
We would but surveys show that people listening to the radio would rather hear a human voice from time to time.

Not me. Just play the music.

If you have to have a DJ on there to talk, have him or her give the station identification and the name of the upcoming song/artist, and then shut the hell up.

The program directors have heard you loud and clear. In these days of 20 hours a day computer automation, that is pretty much all you're going to get.

oh, i FUCKING HATE morning shows, I'm convinced that they are there to get people to buy CD's to listen to in the morning instead of the radio

Agreed :lol:
 
I always listen to the radio for the music. It exposes me to a lot wider variety of songs that I would otherwise hear if I had to pick my own music.
 
Not me. Just play the music.
You don't need the radio for that.

I think you've misspoken. It's more like only 10% of the people listening to the radio are listening to it for music. Not that people don't actually like music, that's absurd. Everyone else is listening to their own tunes via ipods or mix cd's.
No, I did not misspoke. Lots of people like music, just like lots of people like architecture or sculpture. It's just that these people are only a tiny minority of the population. But if you don't believe me, that's fine: radio is based on the assumption that people actually enjoy music.
Care to explain what you're basing this opinion that only a tiny minority of people like music upon?
 
The only thing I don't like about the fast-talk legal disclaimers at the end is, a lot of times, they say it all so quickly that you can't actually understand what they're saying. It's not the same as a commercial on TV because you can read the print (though they usually tend to put it in small letters easily lost in the background). So if someone does something wrong because they couldn't understand the whole disclaimer because it was read too fast, the people who put out the advertisement can still say "Hey, we put the disclaimer out there, we're not liable for [insert problem here]."

IMHO, admakers should be required by law to make the disclaimers understandable. Otherwise there's no point to even having them at all.

Some areas have "10-Digit Dialing" where you dial all 10-digits of a phone number to reach someone, usually only if you're calling outside your area code.

Thanks to our new area code, we now have 10-digit dialing where I live (Omaha) for *all* calls. Even when both ends of the call are within the same area code. However, calls from our old area code (402) to the new one (531, I think) are not considered long distance; only calls outside the region are.
 
I used the "fast-talking" as inspiration, once. We had to do a media project in high school where we were to make a slide show and record our voices. The last slide was a works cited, so I recorded myself reading every url and sped it up about 50%. Good stuff.
 
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