I Happen To Like John Barrowman

[Thrall]

There are people who don't care for John Barrowman? Well, fuck them.

John's made of 100% pure awesome, and I always enjoy the heck out of him.

No, he's 90% talent and ambition (a necessary combination), and 10% is made up of the lack of that ability to get past the struggling actor's inability to say 'no'. (it's sometimes called Kate Beckinsale syndrome).
To quote an old ISIHAC joke: answerphone messages - "Hi, this it Tim Brooke-Taylor, and whatever it is, I'll do it!".

Don't be knocking on my Kate. I'll challenge you to duel.....in Call of Duty.

 

[wamdue]

how can I argue with 6 x 10 equalling 60? im not that insane.

im just one of those people who doesnt like doing what everyone else is doing, for example I was on a youth training scheme at one time, and a couple of times we got taken to the cinema, everyone in our group buggered off to see Lord of the Rings, whilst I went & saw a movie I actually wanted to see (SWAT) rather than just do what everyone else did, for no other reason than because everyone else was doing it.l

as for best Doctor Who, it is subjective, but im sure if you asked a group of real fans, you would get a better spread than if you were just asking normal people.

that said im a total new series fan cliche, so I guess I shouldnt really comment.

Basically I dont like following the crowd, and when I see behaviour which appears like that, I find it strange.

That's fair enough, I can see your point there.
It's just that your earlier post (and perhaps I'm reading more into it than you intended) seemed to suggest that the only reason you could see for group behaviour was some mindless follow the herd mentality. I was just suggesting that sometimes people can independently come to the same conclusion. It is possible, after all, that some people in your youth training group actually wanted to see LOTR, and would have gone to see it even without the rest of the group.
And some would have just gone along with everyone else. That's group dynamics for you.

I agree some would have wanted to see it, but im sure alot of them just went with the group, not wanting to stand out, making what was then a safe movie choice.

 

[Jim Steele]

Wamdue, not only is your position utterly presumptuous, it's also childish and hypocritical.

You like nuWho. So do the majority of people here. There's no causal relationship between those two facts, is there?

While I understand what you're saying (well, I felt exactly the same way WHEN I WAS FOURTEEN), has it occurred to you that going against the grain for the sake of going against the grain is just inverted groupthink?

for example I was on a youth training scheme at one time, and a couple of times we got taken to the cinema, everyone in our group buggered off to see Lord of the Rings, whilst I went & saw a movie I actually wanted to see (SWAT) rather than just do what everyone else did, for no other reason than because everyone else was doing it

It doesn't occur to you then that perhaps the majority of individuals there genuinely wanted to see LotR? Fuck, you're more cynical than I am.

Either way, the desire to see SWAT instead doesn't elevate you above "normal" people as you seem to think it does.

 

[Jim Steele]

Wamdue, not only is your position utterly presumptuous, it's also childish and hypocritical.

You like nuWho. So do the majority of people here. There's no causal relationship between those two facts, is there?

While I understand what you're saying (well, I felt exactly the same way WHEN I WAS FOURTEEN), has it occurred to you that going against the grain for the sake of going against the grain is just inverted groupthink?

for example I was on a youth training scheme at one time, and a couple of times we got taken to the cinema, everyone in our group buggered off to see Lord of the Rings, whilst I went & saw a movie I actually wanted to see (SWAT) rather than just do what everyone else did, for no other reason than because everyone else was doing it

It doesn't occur to you then that perhaps the majority of individuals there genuinely wanted to see LotR? Fuck, you're more cynical than I am.

Either way, the desire to see SWAT instead doesn't elevate you above "normal" people as you seem to think it does.

 

[Miss Chicken]

If I had been in a group that 'buggered off to see LOTR" I certainly would have been going a movie I actually wanted to see. In fact I wanted to see Lord of the Rings so much that I saw FOTR eight times, The Two Towers ten times, and ROTK six times at the cinema. I practically counted down the days to the movies started.

 

[JoeZhang]

I certainly wouldn't go gay for John Barrowman, camp gayness is a complete turn-off.

 

[wamdue]

1) You like nuWho. So do the majority of people here. There's no causal relationship between those two facts, is there?

2) While I understand what you're saying (well, I felt exactly the same way WHEN I WAS FOURTEEN), has it occurred to you that going against the grain for the sake of going against the grain is just inverted groupthink?


3) Either way, the desire to see SWAT instead doesn't elevate you above "normal" people as you seem to think it does.

1) it means, either ive finally started to conform, or the world is coming around to my way of thinking.

2) ive always gone against the grain, even before I knew there was such a thing as the grain. I was an awful kid, I went to nursery for half the day, I wouldnt let another person use my coat hook for the other half, and when they tried to change me to another coat hook I was not having that either.

3) no but it gives me time to myself to do something I want to do, and not feel that I have to tag along with the group, for just that reason.

as you may have worked out reading this post, I dont play well with others.

 

[Count Zero]

2) I wonder what it is that gives Barrowman such universal appeal, I get it hes an attractive man, but so are lots of guys, you dont see straight guys falling at there knees for Tennant.

Well, there was the "I have a man-crush on David Tennant" thread in this very forum where some posters said they'd go gay for him. But I guess, this sort of scenario makes more sense with someone who's actually gay, like Barrowman.

I don't his work outside of Who, but I liked him in interviews. He seems like a nice, funny guy. He's not my kind of attractive, though I can see why he appeals to others.

I gotta ask: when did Barrowman get his dick out on radio?

 

[wamdue]

2) I wonder what it is that gives Barrowman such universal appeal, I get it hes an attractive man, but so are lots of guys, you dont see straight guys falling at there knees for Tennant.

Well, there was the "I have a man-crush on David Tennant" thread in this very forum where some posters said they'd go gay for him.

I dont recall that, and my posts have not really been aimed at your guys, just the internet generally.

 

[Count Zero]

There you go, wamdue: http://www.trekbbs.com/showthread.php?t=60237

No need to apologise, though, I'm not a guy so it doesn't even apply to me.

 

[wamdue]

I see some people mentioned going gay for Barrowman in that one as well.

 

[Count Zero]

You aren't safe from John Barrowman, anywhere!

 

[wamdue]

You aren't safe from John Barrowman, anywhere!

I have caught him stalking me a few times

 

[Checkmate]

I used to like him until he did whatever it was he did to his nose. I dunno if it was surgery or something else, but it looks absolutely horrible whenever I see it now. Seemed to happen somewhere along the first season of Torchwood.

I also know that I'm apparently the only person who notices it, but cripes. It's sort of like that vein around the bottom of Christian Bale's eye. If it's not covered in make-up it gives me the heebie-jeebies.

 

[wamdue]

he has done something to his nose?

 

[Checkmate]

People say he hasn't (Barrowman included), but it looks freakish to me now. Whereas origianlly he looked great. It's like it got squished together in the middle and the tip of it was reformed and pinched, leaving his nostrils flairing. It's the mostly the tip. Sort of like here after a quick search:

As opposed to (and sorry, my GoogleFu isn't that great):

 

[ria 75]

What the fuck???
Don't make me go through my picture collection to prove you wrong.
(I love that second picture, btw. I have an avatar of that.)
Besides, why would JB want plastic surgery? He's always been very pleased with himself.

Not that I prefer the are too - are not - are too - are not derailments, but this thread keeps going south.

Count Zero, it was about six months ago.
John_Barrowman_apologizes_after_"exposing"_himself_on_Radio_1

 

[wamdue]

^ I can believe he might have surgery one day when his looks start to fade

 

[Count Zero]

Count Zero, it was about six months ago.
John_Barrowman_apologizes_after_"exposing"_himself_on_Radio_1

Thanks for the link. Well, he has guts. I don't get the outrage over it, though. After all, nobody saw what was going on.

 

[sidious618]

Where's that "congrats, you're gay" pic of Barrowman when you need it?