Well to be fair, he's a paid CBS Plant.........not SyFy/Universal.oh you're right, this thread indeed is reminiscent of people being wrong
i find STD unwatchable
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This is it's biggest problem, it's absolute garbage compared to other TV at the moment. Even in terms of Sci-fi, shows like Dark, Black Mirror, Altered Carbon, OA, Stranger Things, even The Orville are vastly superior to Disco. As I said in the other thread about rating it, compare it to other Trek series, it's garbage, compare it to other TV shows, it's garbage.
This is because the entire show is written and produced by hacks in suits who don't understand anything on any level. Everything the show does is just chasing trends from the aesthetic (Looks like a video game *coughmasseffectcough*) to the storytelling(Mystery boxes + Game of Thrones without understanding how to do either) to the characters (Shallow diversity chasing, everyone are edgy teenagers), even the filming(terrible imitation of Star Trek 2009), look at the way the camera is constantly in ridiculous motion spinning around characters or dutch angles, it's a cheap and lazy way to make it look "cinematic" when it's just amateur cinematography and is really distracting.
I can tell you 100% the initial idea behind discovery was a bunch of old baby boomer businessmen sitting around a table thinking "How can we make Star Trek/CBS hip and cool to millennials" and never, ever consulting anybody from the demographic they actually wanted to appeal to.
I can't wait for the documentary on the behind the scenes of this trainwreck, it's going to be 100x more interesting than the actual show.
Where did the awesome come in? The second episode with Mudd was fairly good, at times. That's the best I'm aware of.
It's backward-looking and completely unimpressive. I loathe it, but "absolute garbge" is hyperbolic IMO. Of course - the "battle flag issue" to one side - I never thought Dukes of Hazard was absolute garbage, either.
Just like the rest of the franchise. I get the impression some fans were either expecting The Second coming of Star Trek and forgot previous shows were not welcomed with open arms by all.
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there's an understatement
"even tv shows from 30 years ago that I haven't seen before, have more appeal.. it doesn't stand up to TNG, Voy or DS9, and even if you watch it as a stand alone, it doesn't stand up... if you compare it to other new shows on tv right now it doesn't stand up either"
I agree.... It is a little worrying when your show does not hold up to it's antecedents, or its contemporaries.
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Not only that, but why is there this need to compare every Trek to the last one. I didn't like TNG, not because it wasn't TOS but because I didn't like the characters, or how the show looked.there's an understatement
It's ok to not like something because of what the show is, not because it doesn't "stack up" against whatever TV its being compared to.
Yeah, I wish they'd just picked up Star Trek Continues on their streaming service. That would have been way better.
Exactly. This thing was dated before it aired.
Well, TNG had a first season of standalone episodes. Some of the them were good, some of them were garbage. I remember not really paying attention to the stories that much but was awestuck by the FX, which I had only seen in cinemas until that date and here it was - the wonder of the cinema in my little TV. There was alot of topical talk about space travel in the culture at that time which gave TNG its boost during this era. I'm all jaded now over FX.
Disco has good episodes and individual scenes of strong acting. But on the whole its an arc-season or a "super-episode" that's not that well coordinated and concluded very abruptly. The Voq plot just staggered along until it collapsed from exhaustion. Lorca was squandered and I'm not sure how I'd take a Disco rewatch knowing what I know about him now.
I'm neither negatively or positively passionate about Disco. But I'm a far, far tougher audience now than when I was younger and when TV was simpler and undemanding -- and other than with Lorca at his peak; this show is not memorable for me so far.
Disco has good episodes and individual scenes of strong acting. But on the whole its an arc-season or a "super-episode" that's not that well coordinated and concluded very abruptly. The Voq plot just staggered along until it collapsed from exhaustion. Lorca was squandered and I'm not sure how I'd take a Disco rewatch knowing what I know about him now.
I'm neither negatively or positively passionate about Disco. But I'm a far, far tougher audience now than when I was younger and when TV was simpler and undemanding -- and other than with Lorca at his peak; this show is not memorable for me so far.
I had very mixed views about the premiere and the last was rushed. I rated highly most of the episode as they came down the pipeline well though. But meshed as a seasonal arc, well, it didn't mesh as an arc -- for me anyhow.
They were never going to rehash of BermanTrek or have "conference-table Trek". I didn't even consider that as a possibility -- so no fear on that score.
Meyers -- the most traditional Trek creator in Discos proximity -- is the action orientated TWOK-kinda guy anyhow. And JJ-esque stuff is the Trek in vogue at the moment. So that was always going to drive it.
They were never going to rehash of BermanTrek or have "conference-table Trek". I didn't even consider that as a possibility -- so no fear on that score.
Meyers -- the most traditional Trek creator in Discos proximity -- is the action orientated TWOK-kinda guy anyhow. And JJ-esque stuff is the Trek in vogue at the moment. So that was always going to drive it.
Agreed. Tried so many times to watch that 70s cheesefest.
The music was awesome.
Come on. You know it was.
so, you don't like to watch STD? I can relate to that. Most STDs are awful to watch.
But DISCO is areally good show, maybe you should try watching that instead
But DISCO is areally good show, maybe you should try watching that instead
Which are the awesome episodes? I'd really like to see one as I had to stop at episode 5.
agreed!
.. glad to see I'm not the only one who thinks this way.. was starting to think I'm hallucinating! Or are all the people who like it just not observant enough to notice these things? I guess I do tend to appreciate things on a deeper level than most
I see your point! Working out how it became such a train wreck should be mildly amusing- but something tells me it's not that hard to make a trainwreck but is to make something decent.
Ok.. I'll try to watch that one.
Agreed!
Love how the fanboys call it disco and people who cant stand it call it std hahaha.. the irony is, it is just like an STD someone caught at a cheesy disco.
I think the fact that DSC is polarizing and not "for everyone" is exactly why I love it.
If it were yet another safe, repetitive, frothy episodic Star Trek...I'd have no reason to tune in and watch. I've already seen that 700 times (and we currently have that with Orville).
To me, the fact that not everyone loves it means it is doing something right.
If it were yet another safe, repetitive, frothy episodic Star Trek...I'd have no reason to tune in and watch. I've already seen that 700 times (and we currently have that with Orville).
To me, the fact that not everyone loves it means it is doing something right.
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