Hypothetically Speaking, What if this movie really takes off?
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Well, it is the greatest thread ever. And it is the first thread I've ever started to be named as such 
Hooray!
But in all seriousness, we, as fans of Star Trek need this film to do well. If it doesn't, it is very likely that no one will touch Star Trek as an IP ever again. All the talk about the new movie killing the franchise is missing one very important point: This franchise is bleeding demised! Pining For the Fijords and all that. There are many more stories to be told in this universe, and without this shot in the arm, we aren't going to get them.
But in all seriousness, we, as fans of Star Trek need this film to do well. If it doesn't, it is very likely that no one will touch Star Trek as an IP ever again. All the talk about the new movie killing the franchise is missing one very important point: This franchise is bleeding demised! Pining For the Fijords and all that. There are many more stories to be told in this universe, and without this shot in the arm, we aren't going to get them.
If the movie takes off, then hopefully as you suggest there will be an XII.
What XI ends up being (the overall storyline, details, etc.) will greatly influence what direction I think XII should go. In other words, its a wait and see at this point.
On the TV side, hopefully the renewed interest in the new Trek movies will convince CBS to create a new series (not necessarily one based on XI).
What XI ends up being (the overall storyline, details, etc.) will greatly influence what direction I think XII should go. In other words, its a wait and see at this point.
On the TV side, hopefully the renewed interest in the new Trek movies will convince CBS to create a new series (not necessarily one based on XI).
Well, I've had some free time lately, and the one question I kept asking myself (besides who the final cylon is [I'm looking at you, XXX XXXXX]), is what type of story Trek XII could tell.
I am of the opinion that time travel, borg, and klingons should not be involved in any way, shape, or form. I want Trek XII to be a (somewhat) original idea. Every Trek movie has featured klingons (save for IX and X, unless you count worf, which I do), and the borg have been done to death. Out of the 10 feature films currently produced, 3 already involve time travel in one form or another. (4 if you count Anji's time slowing power in Insurrection, boy, I'm on a roll with these parentheticals) Honestly. Trek XII could be titled "Kirk writes an essay", and Chris Pine could sit at a desk for two hours, writing some trashy romantic novel about an encounter with an orion slave girl, and I would totally support that movie. Why? Because there are no bloody borg, klingons, or time travel.
Maybe Trek XII could start off at the end of Kirk's original 5 year mission. Sure, we would miss a lot of the good stuff in between, but it would also not only allow TPTB a lot of creative freedom, but it wouldn't necessarily intrude on any continuity established during TOS. At the very least, it would be throwing a bone to those individuals who feel that nuST is an abomination which is quietly raping and murdering their childhoods behind the supermarket after school.
I am of the opinion that time travel, borg, and klingons should not be involved in any way, shape, or form. I want Trek XII to be a (somewhat) original idea. Every Trek movie has featured klingons (save for IX and X, unless you count worf, which I do), and the borg have been done to death. Out of the 10 feature films currently produced, 3 already involve time travel in one form or another. (4 if you count Anji's time slowing power in Insurrection, boy, I'm on a roll with these parentheticals) Honestly. Trek XII could be titled "Kirk writes an essay", and Chris Pine could sit at a desk for two hours, writing some trashy romantic novel about an encounter with an orion slave girl, and I would totally support that movie. Why? Because there are no bloody borg, klingons, or time travel.
Maybe Trek XII could start off at the end of Kirk's original 5 year mission. Sure, we would miss a lot of the good stuff in between, but it would also not only allow TPTB a lot of creative freedom, but it wouldn't necessarily intrude on any continuity established during TOS. At the very least, it would be throwing a bone to those individuals who feel that nuST is an abomination which is quietly raping and murdering their childhoods behind the supermarket after school.
You want a movie about the Enterprise being overhauled in drydock, Kirk tied to a desk and Spock purging his human half?
firstly , i don't speak hypothetical but i hope this movie is great and really does well, but somehow i doubt it. i really don't believe there will be that big of an audience for it. trekkers maybe, but i think mainstream moviegoers will shy away from it . i could be wrong though .we will know in a few months......
Wasn't it pretty widely theorized that the big E had a SECOND 5-year mission before being refit? That's the way I remember it, anyway...I find it difficult to believe Kirk played Admiral Desk Jockey for a full decade!
Only by fans and a few early Pocket novelists (such as Diane Duane and AC Crispin), but the canonical dates given in VOY for Kirk's mission tally with the "ST Encyclopedia", in which the Okudas speculated that a second 5YM occurred after TMP and before ST II, not between TAS and TMP.
When Diane Duane's early "Rihannsu" novels were re-released in a recent omnibus ("The Bloodwing Voyages"), all now-incorrect dates and ranks were reconfigured, and a few lines about Chapel studying for her doctorate were dropped. The "Rihannsu" stories are now set post-TMP.
There are only 2.5 years between TOS/TAS and TMP if you go by Kirk's lines in TMP, certainly not the real-time decade we waited for the movie to be made.
Simple solution to your ever growing problem: don't watch it. You must not get any love or affection from people around you, judging by how reactive you are of anything and everything.
As for the OP's point, if this movie really takes off, we will have a new thrusting era of Star Trek yet again.
I agree with this. Well, not Chris Pine writing a trashy romance novel - Karl Urban re-arranging McCoy's medicine cabinets on the other hand, that I could watch for a couple of hours!
Given that this is a new start for Trek it would be great if we could get some new stories - there's enough space out there that we don't have to run in to Klingons at every turn.
That would vibe better with the actors' ages. Retconning that in would be fine by me.
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