Has anyone here read this timeline for the mirror universe that some fan has put up in the Canon Fodder section of Ex Astris Scientia? Very interesting read, he traces the development of the Terran Empire all the way back to the American Revolution, and the nation's subsequent relations with Britain and Napoleonic France. Well worth a read, IMO.
Hypothetic Timeline of the Mirror Universe
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Bah! My own personal canon: the survival of Edith Keeler kicked off the Mirror Universe. That caused the Nazis to win WWII. But the larger population and economic prowess of America caused the fascist system to evolve into something more American (notice how the MU folks act a lot more selfish, sleazy, individualistic, entrepreneurial and undisciplined than your average Nazi - more like space pirates, really) and in a century or two, you have your Terran Empire. 
If that's not how it happened, then where was the branching-off point? Maybe Nero was involved? How bout a link?
If that's not how it happened, then where was the branching-off point? Maybe Nero was involved? How bout a link?
Frankenvorta - that works amazingly well, especially since Mirror, Mirror is a season after The City on the Edge of Forever!
I wish I could lay claim to it, but it's an idea that's been kicking around for a long time. Long enough that when ENT did that really clever MU opening montage, I went 
when the sailing ships appeared...no, no, everyone knows that it branched off in the 30s!
when the sailing ships appeared...no, no, everyone knows that it branched off in the 30s!It's time travel, so even if Mirror, Mirror was a season before, it would still work out fine.
I don't thing the mirror-mirror universe ever "branched-off" from the prime universe. Because we keep seeing the same people, situations, groups and ships over time, so the prime and mirror universe must be linked interactively in a on-going way, they're tied together continuously. The only person who ever existed in the prime universe who was absent from the mirror was Jake Sisko, the only person absent from the prime was Vic Fontaine.
The mirror universe can't be just another branched-off alternate/parallel universe.
Didn't MU Phlox say that even the classical literature was different? So then the branching point, if one exists, must be centuries in our past.
^^Indeed, with the exception of Shakespeare. He's the same in both universes.
Also something to consider, the opening credits of Enterprise's episode depicts an animated graphic of the Terran Empire's logo with Earth spinning in the opposite direction. An indication that perhaps the sun rises in the west and sets in the east on MU Earth?
Also something to consider, the opening credits of Enterprise's episode depicts an animated graphic of the Terran Empire's logo with Earth spinning in the opposite direction. An indication that perhaps the sun rises in the west and sets in the east on MU Earth?
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Just one of the many things in Dark Mirror which has since been contradicted by canon. Just like the exisntence of Romulans in the MU, the status of the Klingons, and oh yeah, the depiction of 24th century MU!
I like to think that every universe in the multiverse has a mirror duplicate which are morally inverted and people have the opposite attitudes regarding facial hair. The MU is our universe's mirror duplicate (duh, I know).
Well you could say that the regular and MU were always distinct universes but happened to roll along in a very similar and almost identical way, until X happened in the MU (or maybe X happened in the regular U) and after that, they got somewhat different (but not nearly as different as they could be - there must be parallel universes that are entirely unrecognizable from our own).
If you accept the theory that there are an infinite number of parallel universes (that have always existed; no branching off needed), and that therefore anything that is possible must happen in at least one, then the insane coincidence of the same people being born and looking basically the same, with similar personalities (but different behavior due to changed circumstances) in two different universes isn't so implausible but is in fact mandatory.
I thought it was a common theory since IaMD that the Terran Empire was some sort of a continuation of the Roman Empire?
In "Mirror, Mirror" Marlena Moreau talks about "being the woman of a Caesar". And in a deleted scence scene from "In a Mirror Darkly" Archer makes a reference to "the gods" and also quotes Julius Caesar. Plus, this fits with the fact that the Terran Empire is ruled by an (seemingly non-monarchic) Emperor and aliens (at least in the 22nd century) have the status of slaves.
In any case, because of IaMD's opening credits and Phlox' reference regarding Shakespeare the point of divergence (if there is one) has to be at least 500 years prior to Enterprise.
In "Mirror, Mirror" Marlena Moreau talks about "being the woman of a Caesar". And in a deleted scence scene from "In a Mirror Darkly" Archer makes a reference to "the gods" and also quotes Julius Caesar. Plus, this fits with the fact that the Terran Empire is ruled by an (seemingly non-monarchic) Emperor and aliens (at least in the 22nd century) have the status of slaves.
In any case, because of IaMD's opening credits and Phlox' reference regarding Shakespeare the point of divergence (if there is one) has to be at least 500 years prior to Enterprise.
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That is what I always thought the MU was if on Earth the Roman Empire never fell and continued to be joined by Nazi Germany,etc.
In my personal canon, the MU began when Khan won the Eugenics War.
More like a Roman Empire that was eventually dominated by the British, considering that the Terran Empire also had a very "Anglo" culture?
Here's a theory: Instead of a Byzantine Empire that split from the Roman Empire, there was a "romanized" British Empire that evolved from the original Roman Empire. Ah yes, and christianity was never much of a religion in the MU.
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Hmmm, don't know about having the divergence point as far back as the Roman Empire. Earth in the MU is still quite similar culturally in some aspects to the regular Earth, so I reckon the divergence occured closer to the current era (There's also the fact that MU-Phlox says that Shakespeare's plays were identical in both universes, something I don't think would be possible if MU history had gone askew before then; Shakespeare was very much a product of his era, and a lot of his plays were about historical characters living centuries before his time).
IMHO, the divergence point couldn't have occured further back than around 3/400 years prior to In A Mirror Darkly in order for the culture of the Terran Empire to have that many similarities to its UFP opposite.
IMHO, the divergence point couldn't have occured further back than around 3/400 years prior to In A Mirror Darkly in order for the culture of the Terran Empire to have that many similarities to its UFP opposite.
It must have still been a major part of the MU-Earth's culture at some point though, as the dating system used by the Empire is identical to the one used in the regular universe, i.e. 2155 AD in the MU is also 2155 AD in the MU, as shown in In A Mirror Darkly.
