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Human aliens

^ yeah, could you elaborate? Do you mean aliens that didn't have forehead/facial markings of the week?
 
Were the Human looking aliens from say 'Bread and Circuses' and Enterprise actually Humans.
 
From AskOxford.com:

Alien: noun. 1 a foreigner. 2 an alien plant or animal species. 3 a being from another world.

So yeah, I guess those that didn't have a "forehead of the week" could be considered alien humans.
 
Were the Human looking aliens from say 'Bread and Circuses' and Enterprise actually Humans.
What are the Human looking aliens on Enterprise?

As for "Bread and Circuses" since they were not identified as Humans (people originating on Earth) then no.
 
I don't think there were any on ENT.

Actually... I think there were many.


Risa. They have jewelry on head, but so do people in South East Asia.
The 'Desert Crossing' people. They had tattoos, but that doesn't count. Lots of tribal cultures have tattoos here.
The race that has Suliban detainment camps. Look like humans. You could take a screen shot and think it's Quantum Leap.

They never say they are genetically human, but they're perfect stand ins.

Archer and company were not the least surprised by these, BTW.

This is only 1 season into the show.
I'm probably forgetting some.
 
I think the people from Axanar were Human like too with no philosophy about the possibility of Humanity originating elsewhere. WTF.
 
This is how the Axanar are portrayed in Enterprise:

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The Axanar were never seen in TOS, just mentioned in "Whom Gods Destroy" and "Court Martial." (Memory Alpha)
 
I suppose you could consider the humans and human/hybrid with the Skagarrans, in Northstar, as aliens. They were born on a different world, so technically that would make them aliens.
 
I'm not buying the whole: "We grew up on another planet, so we are alien" speech.

If you look human and your internal organs are the same and your DNA is not going to change any time soon, you are Human. If it starts to deviate from that you are an Alien.

Sure the word Alien can be used to describe people from another country and even other worlds even. But the true sense of the word Alien in reference to Humans on a physical level is that they are biologically different from one another. Hence, the reason why they are called Aliens.

So technically this thread should be labeled... "Are There Any Humans or Human Looking Hybrids on Other Worlds within Enterprise & The Original Series?"

;)
 
Yes. Of course. We are Aliens to the Aliens. Still doesn't change the fact that Earth can identify it's own people physically that are just as identical to them on a biological level. Whether these Humans on other worlds with identical DNA and internal organs go by different names (other than Human) or not.

Human is just a word in the english language. There are dozens of words in other languages that describes the same being. Doesn't make a Human any different just because it is labeled differently or it grew up somewhere else (i.e. other worlds).
 
Yes. Of course. We are Aliens to the Aliens. Still doesn't change the fact that Earth can identify it's own people physically that are just as identical to them on a biological level. Whether these Humans on other worlds with identical DNA and internal organs go by different names (other than Human) or not.

Human is just a word in the english language. There are dozens of words in other languages that describes the same being. Doesn't make a Human any different just because it is labeled differently or it grew up somewhere else (i.e. other worlds).
Yes a human born on another world is still a human. But many of the human looking aliens seen on Star trek are not presented or identified as humans, they just look like humans (externally)
 
If they have different internal organs they would be Aliens.
If they are an offshoot of Humans and still have Human DNA, they would be Human Hybrids.
 
Just out of curiosity, how far out of the usual human range of variation would a "new species" have to be to be considered alien? Lets say they had the same internal organs as us, but their average height was 8 feet (forgetting any mechanical/medical reasons why this wouldn't be possible). Would they be considered more "alien?"

To use an example of a single character, it's pretty obvious that Mr. Homn isn't human. But he's just a really tall guy who doesn't talk much. What makes him more alien than, say, the Edo?
 
If they have different internal organs they would be Aliens.
If they are an offshoot of Humans and still have Human DNA, they would be Human Hybrids.
Pretty rare we see their organs or DNA. So unless other wise noted, I'm calling them aliens.
 
This thread brings to mind thoughts I've had about Stargate SG1 & the Jaffa. I know they're called aliens on that show, and do in fact have a unique tribal culture, but other then the pouch they seem to be nothing more then altered humans.

I can remember reading an adaption of "Errand of Mercy" by James Blish where he outright says the Klingons (no ridges after all) were actually a human offshoot with strong "Mongolian ties".

Sharr
 
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