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Howe Comments On SGA Fan's Outrage

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http://www.multichannel.com/index.a...lk_back_header_id=6551275&articleid=CA6589804

When the network canceled Stargate SG-1, fans reacted sharply, but Sci Fi had already put the spinoff Atlantis on the schedule.
This time, the network not only had the promise of continued life for the show in the form of at least one followup movie — it also said it will have a replacement show from the same creators (Brad Wright and Robert C. Cooper) on the schedule next year.Stargate Universe will start with a two-hour movie early next year. Over the summer it will join the weekly schedule, with 18 more one-hour episodes to follow the movie.
Those moves may have muted the fans' reaction to the cancellation — but not completely. One barometer: an online petition to save the show had close to 1,000 signatures the morning after the cancellation news broke at night. By 1 p.m. Friday it had 3,774 names.
“There's no sign of a letup in my e-mail inbox, I can tell you,” Howe said in a telephone interview from England Friday. “I've had to get on with IT because it is so clogged up with e-mails to 'Save Atlantis.'
“There's obviously a passionate audience for Atlantis and the characters of Atlantis,” Howe said. “And yes, they're absolutely going to continue in the movie franchise. But people need to mourn for a while and come to terms with it. I don't anticipate that that will subside quickly. But once Universe is on air and they have kind of their next fix of the Stargate franchise, I think hopefully people will realize that it's in safe hands at Sci Fi, that we really value this franchise and it's in our interest and the fans' interest to let us continue the story and figure out how to retell it for a new audience every few years.”
“I think there's a natural life to each of the chapters of the story,” Howe said of the series that fed off the 1994 movie with Kurt Russell and James Spader and launched on Showtime with a name star, Richard Dean Anderson.
“What we endeavor to do each time is to introduce the franchise to a new audience, make it a bit more contemporary, more relatable,” he said. The ambition with Universe is to skew it younger than the previous two chapters and fill it with a fresh-faced cast; and a storytelling that is more for the late 2000s than it is for the 1990s.”
Sci Fi shows such as Eureka and Ghost Hunters have surpassed the Stargate series in viewer numbers, but hit Battlestar Galactica has proven there's significant life in the “space-opera” genre. Battlestar is in its fourth and last season on Sci Fi. A “prequel” to it, called Caprica, could join the schedule as a new series, but for now is only scheduled as a two-hour movie.
“What's unique about this [Stargate] chapter is it's going to be set entirely in space,” Howe said. SG-1 was based on Earth, and Atlantis was set on a base in another galaxy. Universe will be based on a ship called the Destiny.
“That's also an opportunity for us because as Battlestar Galactica reaches a conclusion, it's nice for us to have within the mix of programming a space opera that serves the audience that's really into space operas,” he said.
The myth of the series concerns a device that transports present-day people to different planets or galaxies. The new series also will be set in the present day, as humans discover a space vessel designed to travel between galaxies where the stargate portals have been placed. And then the crew members aboard the Destiny learn they can't return to Earth.
Joseph Mallozzi, one of two show runners on Atlantis, noted in his blog last Friday that rising production costs and a steep climb in the Canadian dollar relative to the U.S. dollar were among the factors that stacked the odds against a renewal. Multichannel News reported in 2006 that the original series, SG-1, cost at least $2 million per episode in U.S. dollars its final year.
Atlantis's ratings had declined from an average of more than 3 million for the very first 10 episodes, in 2004, to about 2.1 million viewers for the four episodes this season that also include seven-day recorded viewing. The current season, though, ratings were up versus the second half of season four.
Howe said the plan is to produce Universe in Vancouver — “the good news is the greenback is bouncing back” — and said it would have high production values, which he said the fans expect.

I love this, I guess they didn't think there'd be much fan backlash for cancelling another show. :lol:
 
Are they blind? Seriously, what's that "fourth time's the charm?" They cancelled Farscape, BSG, SG-1, and now Atlantis and they are still surprised by the fan reaction? Hope springs eternal, there's always next time, etc, etc. Either Sci-Fi executives are eternal optimists or bloody morons. Oh wait, this is the same group of people who foisted Painkiller Jane and Flash Gordon on us. Yep, they are morons.

On the other hand, they did give each of the above series a chance to be great which is more than can be said for Fox or the other broadcast networks. So for that alone I am thankful for the execs.

On the other, other hand, they did make Mansquito. F'ing morons.
 
Given that people turned up and picketed Bridge Studios when they killed off Beckett, what reaction were they expecting when they canceled the entire show ?
 
SKIFFY= a large group of studio executives who have never cracked open a single book by Allen Steele, Arthur C. Clarke or Robert Heinlein, couldn't spell "Asimov" if they had to, have never heard of Harlan Ellison, think Cordwainer Smith was some kind of 20s silent cowboy star and don't understand the multiworlds theory. And people are surprised when they cancel decent shows. Hmmph.
 
Translation: "We'll give them a show about a bunch of brats in space for seven years who can't figure out how to make a ship that makes Stargates create a special one just to get home so we have years worth of angst. Brilliant! that'll make them forget about Atlantis alright, idiotic viewing ****ers!"

:rolleyes:
 
I get being upset with Skiffy, but they aren't the ones who came up with the idea for Universe. That's Bridge. Be pissed at them.
 
^Bridge Studios are just a company that hires out stages for filming in Vancouver. They have no say in the production of Stargate: Atlantis or any other show.
 
^Bridge Studios are just a company that hires out stages for filming in Vancouver. They have no say in the production of Stargate: Atlantis or any other show.

Sorry, I usually lump Mallozzi, Mullie, Wright, and the other writers under Bridge. Since they are the ones who presented the Universe idea to Skiffy and MGM, I blame them for the "younger" viewer trend.
 
Sorry, I usually lump Mallozzi, Mullie, Wright, and the other writers under Bridge. Since they are the ones who presented the Universe idea to Skiffy and MGM, I blame them for the "younger" viewer trend.

As far as Atlantis goes, the show is produced by Acme Shark, Brad Wright and Robert C. Cooper's company, in conjunction with Sony Pictures Television.

Joseph Mallozzi and Paul Mullie are just salaried members of staff.
 
I'm ready for Atlantis to die. For me, after Ford left, the show lost a lot of it's appeal. The Wraith lost their scariness and just became more of an annoyance, which is not good for an enemy that supposedly took down the freaking Ancients!

Thus far, I can't figure out how're they're going to make Universe worth watching. The idea of watching Star Trek Voyager all over again does not appeal to me all that much.

I think a Stargate should make a show that skips ahead to when the public is aware of the Stargate and Earth starts to create the "galactic federation" would be awesome. Political intrigue combined with cool space battles and trying to keep the peace and then introduce a big nasty bad guy as well would be awesome. Like Babylon 5 but with more than 1 set.
 
They better get the bad guys rigtht this time. The Goa'uld were PERFECT. The Egyptian mythology, symbiote connection and their various personalities, powers and dress senses.

The Wraith were just cheap lazy vampire clones with no personality, with nothing cool or memorable about them. Apart from Todd, he was excellent.

The Asurans were the most boring, rehashed wastes of space ever in sci-fi.
 
They cancelled ... BSG

Don't blame Sci-Fi for that. The decision to end the show after four season was made by thew show's creators, not Sci-Fi.

Oh wait, this is the same group of people who foisted Painkiller Jane and Flash Gordon on us.

You conveniantly left out the fact that they also cancelled those two shows after only one season. That's two very good decisions on their part, I must say. ;)
 
They better get the bad guys rigtht this time. The Goa'uld were PERFECT. The Egyptian mythology, symbiote connection and their various personalities, powers and dress senses.

The Wraith were just cheap lazy vampire clones with no personality, with nothing cool or memorable about them. Apart from Todd, he was excellent.

The Asurans were the most boring, rehashed wastes of space ever in sci-fi.

The Goa'uld were the right idea, but they could have used more distinctive personalities - Ba'al was really the only one who became more than a cypher - some of them truly insane and thinking they were gods, others more along the lines of cynical con artists.

They never fulfilled their potential, but they were better than the Wraith, who would require major rewriting and re-conceiving to make work well, or the Asurans, who were just a bad idea all along.

You conveniantly left out the fact that they also cancelled those two shows after only one season. That's two very good decisions on their part, I must say.

It was Skiffy's idea to greenlight those shows. It was the viewers' idea to cancel them, by not watching. ;)
 
I'm not too upset because the third series is coming quickly after Atlantis ends. It makes sense that they pull the plug if it's costly to produce, the ratings are down and creatively it's gone stale. The thing I like that Howe says:

and a storytelling that is more for the late 2000s than it is for the 1990s.

You can tell part of the cancellation has to do with M&M's lame Trek-lite writing style.

Bottom line: Updated writing, more space action, less Vancouver woods and probably less pre-Industrial alien villages has me excited.
 
SG-1 seasons 1-6 had the perfect mix of primitive and technologically advanced races that made for varied and interesting storytelling.

Atlantis, on the other hand got boring because there were hardly any note-worthy aliens. They were all from 'village of the week', an annoying occurence that happened in the latter SG-1 seasons as well.

Hopefully Universe will be different.
 
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